Who can afford to hire a housekeeper or Nanny. I guess I can

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ChesusRice

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Jefferson Calimlim Sr. and his wife, Elnora Calimlim, both medical doctors in Milwaukee, Wis., were each sentenced today to 72 months in prison for forcing a woman to work as their domestic servant and illegally harboring her for 19 years in their Brookfield, Wis., residence.The defendants, initially sentenced on Nov. 16, 2006, to four-year prison terms each, were re-sentenced today, after the Court of Appeals identified legal errors in the initial sentencing and remanded to the trial court for re-sentencing.
On May 26, 2006, Jefferson Calimlim Sr. and Elnora Calimlim were convicted by a Milwaukee federal jury for using threats of serious harm and physical restraint against a Filipina to obtain her services, in violation of federal law. Jefferson Calimlim Jr. was convicted of harboring an illegal alien.
According to evidence presented at trial, Jefferson Calimlim Sr. and his wife recruited and brought the victim from the Philippines to the U.S. in 1985 when she was 19 years old. In September 2004, federal law enforcement officers responding to a tip removed the victim, then age 38, from the Calimlim’s residence through the execution of a federal search warrant. The victim testified that for 19 years she was hidden in the Calimlim’s home, forbidden from going outside and told that she would be arrested, imprisoned and deported if she was discovered.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/June/09-crt-568.html
 
nontheist

nontheist

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ChesusRice said:
Well if she was so happy with the agreement
Why did they have to come and rescue her?
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What do you get when you throw a little socialism in, sprinkle a little feminism, and top with false market? Ai-jen Poo! The one responsible for the OP article and all I along I thought it was from eating too much fried rice.

Ai-jen Poo, director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, which helped conduct the research.



And I thought all labor was precarious.
 
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ChesusRice

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Martin Luther King Jr. was black.
Does that negate what he was trying to achieve with equal rights for blacks?
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
Jefferson Calimlim Sr. and his wife, Elnora Calimlim, both medical doctors in Milwaukee, Wis., were each sentenced today to 72 months in prison for forcing a woman to work as their domestic servant and illegally harboring her for 19 years in their Brookfield, Wis., residence.The defendants, initially sentenced on Nov. 16, 2006, to four-year prison terms each, were re-sentenced today, after the Court of Appeals identified legal errors in the initial sentencing and remanded to the trial court for re-sentencing.
On May 26, 2006, Jefferson Calimlim Sr. and Elnora Calimlim were convicted by a Milwaukee federal jury for using threats of serious harm and physical restraint against a Filipina to obtain her services, in violation of federal law. Jefferson Calimlim Jr. was convicted of harboring an illegal alien.
According to evidence presented at trial, Jefferson Calimlim Sr. and his wife recruited and brought the victim from the Philippines to the U.S. in 1985 when she was 19 years old. In September 2004, federal law enforcement officers responding to a tip removed the victim, then age 38, from the Calimlim’s residence through the execution of a federal search warrant. The victim testified that for 19 years she was hidden in the Calimlim’s home, forbidden from going outside and told that she would be arrested, imprisoned and deported if she was discovered.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/June/09-crt-568.html
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My first reaction was, you can buy 19 year old Filipina girls?:hump:

My second was, that sentencing makes it sound like the nanny was the criminal (technically, yes, but the obvious victim) and aided and abetted was their only crime. That's crazy.

So, was she arrested, imprisoned and deported? It would be consistent with the sentence her, um, caretakers received.
 
Harrekin

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ginwilly said:
My first reaction was, you can buy 19 year old Filipina girls?:hump:

My second was, that sentencing makes it sound like the nanny was the criminal (technically, yes, but the obvious victim) and aided and abetted was their only crime. That's crazy.

So, was she arrested, imprisoned and deported? It would be consistent with the sentence her, um, caretakers received.
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Cheesus is just trying to justify it cos he "kept" his.

Oh, he'll be mad...just wait.
 
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Carthoris

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ChesusRice said:
39-year-old Albany, NY, socialite, Annie George, has been accused of a forced labor situation and is being brought up on federal charges. The maid she hired from Kerala, India, was paid $0.85 an hour for 67 months where she worked 17-hour days, 7 days a week, and was forced to sleep in a bedroom closet so she would never be away from the children she was watching over. The house the maid was “paid” to keep up is a $30,000,000, 12 acre, 30,000 square foot estate with 24-karat gold gilded ceilings, an indoor swimming pool, and a helicopter pad.

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Awesome house, I am going to go out on a limb and guess that closet was bigger than your bedroom. Just saying.
 
nontheist

nontheist

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ginwilly said:
My first reaction was, you can buy 19 year old Filipina girls?:hump:

My second was, that sentencing makes it sound like the nanny was the criminal (technically, yes, but the obvious victim) and aided and abetted was their only crime. That's crazy.

So, was she arrested, imprisoned and deported? It would be consistent with the sentence her, um, caretakers received.
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My first reaction was we now have two fucking stories that aren't even remotely close to the OP to try and justify how fucking retarded it was. Shitty contract labor prices and illegal immigrant slaves are two completely different areas.
 
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Carthoris

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If someone payed you 2 bucks an hour for working for them but gave you a room in a mansion, fed you, perhaps clothed you. How much is that worth? Would even a 10x10 bedrooms, food, utilities put you past minimum wage? Many people work all week long to afford to live. Being a nanny doesn't seem horrible, I am sure there are people who enjoy being live in nannies. The situations described at not the norm. Very few people work in someones house for years in horrible situations. Haven't you ever seen Annie?
 
UncleBuck

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nontheist said:
What do you get when you throw a little socialism in, sprinkle a little feminism, and top with false market? Ai-jen Poo! The one responsible for the OP article and all I along I thought it was from eating too much fried rice.
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you lose because feminism! if women gain rights it takes away from your rights! pretty soon they'll be working 112 hour work weeks and you'll be stuck writing book reports about dolly madison. oh noes!

Carthoris said:
Awesome house, I am going to go out on a limb and guess that closet was bigger than your bedroom. Just saying.
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you're poor therefore you lose!
 
UncleBuck

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Carthoris said:
If someone payed you 2 bucks an hour for working for them but gave you a room in a mansion, fed you, perhaps clothed you. How much is that worth? Would even a 10x10 bedrooms, food, utilities put you past minimum wage? Many people work all week long to afford to live. Being a nanny doesn't seem horrible, I am sure there are people who enjoy being live in nannies. The situations described at not the norm. Very few people work in someones house for years in horrible situations. Haven't you ever seen Annie?
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maybe you can let walmart workers sleep back in the stock room and provide them with $0.85 worth of ramen a day and pay them $3.12 an hour!

winning america's future is what i call that!
 
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Carthoris

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UncleBuck said:
maybe you can let walmart workers sleep back in the stock room and provide them with $0.85 worth of ramen a day and pay them $3.12 an hour!

winning america's future is what i call that!
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Didn't we just talk about this. I post something rational and you dance around singing that I kill puppies. Hey, what happened to you being a moderator or something?
 
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ChesusRice

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Carthoris said:
You mean like making them work and taking 20 or 30% of their labor to give to people who didn't work for it?
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Back to your
"I want to be a whiny bitch freeloader on society" argument?

Hey they have really low tax rates in Haiti

Why dont you move there?
 
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Carthoris

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ChesusRice said:
Back to your
"I want to be a whiny bitch freeloader on society" argument?

Hey they have really low tax rates in Haiti

Why dont you move there?
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So, am I to correctly assume that your argument is : "If you don't like living in a socialist country, move out!"?
 
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