Who Believes In God?

I believe in God!!

im sorry it didnt settle with you! i wish the best for you my friend! no need to get worked up im just compelled to spread this movie after being enlightened! best of luck with all your endevors happy growing s2k

If you had of done a search 1st the video you want every 1 so see so much has been posted on this site about 10 times with young supermen looking to free the world

Infact its on every stoners site on the net young paranoide males brainwashed by terrorist propaganda videos trying to free the world ,

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Zeitgeist - The Movie

spread the word!!

iblazethatkush said:

Your the smartest guy in this thread. You should know that was your government not religion.

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I seriously doubt I am the smartest guy on this thread but thank you for the kind words. Regarding the idea our government orchestrated the attack and killed thousands of US citizens, I'd recommend you not state that in front of any of the survivors of the victims of that event. i would also ask that you consider not chalking up to malice and intent what can be explained away by incompetence and stupidity - though the results may be the same.

Again, thanks for the compliment though i doubt its sentiment.

email468 said:

Regarding the idea our government orchestrated the attack and killed thousands of US citizens, I'd recommend you not state that in front of any of the survivors of the victims of that event.

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dont be modest email, you know your the smartest guy here!

ya, im not trying to offend anyone! just trying to share a movie that i found very informative! i believe everyone should check it out and draw their own conclusions!

once again, no offence.

Zeitgeist - The Movie
spread the word!

We TaRdED said:

dont be modest email, you know your the smartest guy here!

ya, im not trying to offend anyone! just trying to share a movie that i found very informative! i believe everyone should check it out and draw their own conclusions!

once again, no offence.

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I'm personally not offended just giving a friendly warning. I do appreciate your thinking I am the "smartest guy" but I'm not being modest when I say I doubt that is true.

But I'll let you in on my secrets if you too want to appear to be the "smartest guy"...
1 ) Spell check - for clarity more than correctness
2 ) Proof read - see above - if you are understood then bad grammar can take a back seat - but you must be clearly understood first.
3 ) Omit needless words - and use the correct ones. Or as Mark Twain said (paraphrased) - why use a word's second cousin when the right word is available for use?
4 ) when you don't know the answer remain silent or admit you don't know
5 ) when you are guessing or theorizing, make sure it is clear that is what you are doing
6 ) Do not be loose and free with "facts"
7 ) remember that no one has a monopoly on truth
8 ) read, read, read, and when you're tired of reading - read some more. This will improve not only your understanding of the world around you but will improve vocabulary and communication skills.

email468 said:

I'm personally not offended just giving a friendly warning. I do appreciate your thinking I am the "smartest guy" but I'm not being modest when I say I doubt that is true.

But I'll let you in on my secrets if you too want to appear to be the "smartest guy"...
1 ) Spell check - for clarity more than correctness
2 ) Proof read - see above - if you are understood then bad grammar can take a back seat - but you must be clearly understood first.
3 ) Omit needless words - and use the correct ones. Or as Mark Twain said (paraphrased) - why use a word's second cousin when the right word is available for use?
4 ) when you don't know the answer remain silent or admit you don't know
5 ) when you are guessing or theorizing, make sure it is clear that is what you are doing
6 ) Do not be loose and free with "facts"
7 ) remember that no one has a monopoly on truth
8 ) read, read, read, and when you're tired of reading - read some more. This will improve not only your understanding of the world around you but will improve vocabulary and communication skills.

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Cool. I'll have to remember this. I'm starting to realize the way you say things is just as important as what you say.

email468 said:

Regarding the idea our government orchestrated the attack and killed thousands of US citizens, I'd recommend you not state that in front of any of the survivors of the victims of that event.

True. But, there are quite a large percentage of those who also think it was a false flag attack. Google it and you'll find hundreds of survivors critical of the official explanation.


i would also ask that you consider not chalking up to malice and intent what can be explained away by incompetence and stupidity - though the results may be the same.

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True. Either way I blame the government. If it was a small group of pissed-off muslims, which I find hard to believe, I still blame the government for bombing and fucking around in there politics for the last 50 years.

We TaRdED said:

did you watch the whole movie? i believe in God, i just dont know if its the same one from the bible now!

that movie has changed my life!!!!

im on a mission to enlighten everyone to the reality! WE NEED TO UNITE!

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Hey, that's a good movie, We Tarded. I don't agree with the part about religion. I stopped watching that part as soon as they tried to prove Jesus never existed. There are historical accounts other than the bible of Jesus of Nazareth...The rest of the movie is great, though. Especially, the part about the government....Hey you got 666 posts right when you're starting to question your faith. Scary

iblazethatkush said:

Cool. I'll have to remember this. I'm starting to realize the way you say things is just as important as what you say.

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unfortunately, the way you say things can be judged by the listener/reader as being MORE important that what you are saying.

an extreme example would be saying something like: "how can you believe that? only a moron would think that.. here's is the truth: blah, blah, blah"

vs.

"I don't believe that is accurate. I think that blah, blah, blah."

which of the above do you think a reader/listener would pay closer attention to?

And even worse, if you have a lot of typos or use poor grammar, many folks will think less of you because of it. I don't want to hi-jack a God thread but suffice to say, in a perfect world people would judge you on how well your actions coincided with your speech - but as we know the world is not perfect.

OK - back to our regularly scheduled discussion...

iblazethatkush said:

Hey you got 666 posts right when you're starting to question your faith. Scary

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ya, someone else pointed that out as well.......

im just a bit confused right now regarding what to believe. it is very ironic though indeed. and it is scary..... a from me too...

its past though, anyone that gets more than 665 posts has to reach it at some point.

We TaRdED said:

ya, someone else pointed that out as well.......

im just a bit confused right now regarding what to believe. it is very ironic though indeed. and it is scary..... a from me too...

its past though, anyone that gets more than 665 posts has to reach it at some point.

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I really do feel for you. Losing your faith (or feeling like you are losing your faith) can be very scary indeed - especially if God or Jesus was your best friend.

Do I believe in God? No, not in a conventional sense. Do I believe in a benevolent, omniscient entity that gives a shit about all the shit I've been through in my life (or anything anyone else has been through for that matter)? No. Absolutely not. I think if God exists, He/She would have stopped giving a shit about people aeons ago.

porchmonkey4life said:

I think if God exists, He/She would have stopped giving a shit about people aeons ago.

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lol.........

email468 said:

I really do feel for you. Losing your faith

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thanks email.

its hard to be ignorant when you get smacked in the face with facts like that. im not sure if i would rather be ignorant though
i thought there was a profound purpose to this life other than "what is".

There was a time in my life when I believed there was something out there to "be good" for. Some kind of goal or label I should live up to or aspire to become. I was a vegetarian for 2 years, meditated daily, did yoga, tai chi, chigong, read spiritual/philosophical books, listened to spiritual speakers talk about the books they wrote, only associated with other spiritual/philosophical people. Then life smacked me in the face and told me to wake up and figure things out by actually living my life. I wish that bitch would smack me again, because I've been either hysterical or unconscious for the past 12 months.

We TaRdED said:

thanks email.

its hard to be ignorant when you get smacked in the face with facts like that. im not sure if i would rather be ignorant though
i thought there was a profound purpose to this life other than "what is".

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i have been an atheist a long time now and can tell you there are plenty of ways to find purpose, meaning, awe, wonder, and morality in life without believing in God.

Be sure to understand that doesn't make what I believe right or best.
I'm sorry but there are no answers that are both easy and honest.

Congrats. You guys got somebody to question their faith. Mission accomplished.

this is how i think of it.." what did i expect..that there wasnt gona be evidence against what i believe? that it would be spotless? no....there are many people that try and disprove my religion and may be close to doing so, but i would want it like that, i know that God would have it like that so he can see (or know) if WE really love him, rather then just give up because we think Hess given up on us, it may look like that but believe me he hasn't, sometimes the best thing to do is stop everything and just listen...now not for like a whispering voice but urges in your mind or things suddenly pop up, that may be God telling you to do something...

iblazethatkush said:

Congrats. You guys got somebody to question their faith. Mission accomplished.

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Mission accomplished indeed. How's your faith btw?

I encourage everyone to question their faith. Believing in something without evidence is not a virtue to me since it leads to ignorance. Believing something in spite of the evidence goes beyond ignorance and into the world of self-righteous delusion.

As I've said many times before, we are free to believe what we want - but believing doesn't make it so. And conversely, my (or anyone) believing something different doesn't make what we believe true either.

But not believing the evidence, especially in great abundance, is a different thing entirely. Unless you believe that God is all-powerful and able to manipulate the evidence to make it appear He does not exist (or at least not the literal biblical interpretation of Him) - then any argument is a wash so no evidence is convincing. I should add that some folks examine the evidence and are not convinced. Provided they gave the evidence an honest shot, at least they made the effort and I'm guessing their faith is much stronger because of it. So I am not saying that if you examine the evidence you will automatically become a non-believer - but I will warn you that it does get tougher.

Biggest difference I can see with non-believers and literal interpretation believers is non-believers would believe in God with evidence but no evidence can convince the believers that their belief system is even faulty let alone completely wrong. At least this has been my limited experience.

Blind faith, while comforting, can be very dangerous to non-believers (and moderate believers) depending on what the folks who have blind faith believe. I am adding this to my post so you understand why I care what others may or may not believe.