white widow getting worse!

kmog33 said:

Still looks like burn not def. Just keep watering without feeding until your leaves normal out, almost looks like you have nitrogen toxicity and possibly soil is too hot.

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Its 9+ gallons of container and temp is around 30C/86F near lamps but much lower on container level (25C/77F).

If it still could be the problem, any suggestions to cool down the soil? btw I have a small fan blowing towards plants all day in order to keep cfl's as close as possible without causing hotspots near foilage.

My soil is %80 peat(!?) %20 perlite.

Looks like a bad case of nute burn.

just by the way, when people say "soil is too hot" i think they are not referring to the temperature. They are saying that the soil has an abundance of nutrients. Hence HOT soil will give you a nutrient burn. Your temperatures are fine. Nutrients are the issue here.

I think its better to start 12/12 when girls are healty enough. but they are growing so fast, I hope the grow space will be enough (even with fimming! )

NUTE BURN.

remember those leaves wont fix, watch new growth

flower pharm said:

remember those leaves wont fix, watch new growth

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yea I know, when the new growth starts seeming healty I'll switch 12/12. If everything goes well, they'll be ready end of july. (white widow flowering period: 8 weeks). fingers crossed.

yeah i try to let all topping and fimming get grown out a little the train needs to be ready to roll!

White widow sometimes can take 12 weeks so don't get to excited for 8 lol.

You have gone from one problem to another. I think the original problem was overwatering, to correct this you burned it , then you gave it a rough house transplant thinking that would solve the issues, also you stressed it by fimming it. Never transplant a sick plant.

Latest pics. pH blanced water nothing else. Much healtier than before but do you think they are ready for 12/12? Or i should wait another week or 2 to regain their health?

Close pic is the newest grow but new growth on lower branches are healty green.


I know there is nute burn but could be there any deficiency?

i thought about it and this is what i reckon you should do.

Go 12/12 right away and start researching for your next grow. These plants are not happy. Maybe the 12/12 cycle will revive them and maybe at the end of the day u will get some decent weed. But I would look to the future... get this grow finished and start planning for ur next one which will surely be more successful !

this is the best thing I can tell you for future reference. When growing cannabis LESS IS MORE. Young vegging plants don't need very much food. Once you water you need to let it dry out a good bit. It's all about finding those points where you have to feed or have to water , and not feeding or watering when it's not needed. If your soil is still moist on top, you don't water. If yur leaves are still green you don't feed. Don't be proactive, be reactive. Watch the plant and the soil for cues on what you should do. As long as you don't neglect you won't underwater.

Grow4myfriends said:

i thought about it and this is what i reckon you should do.

Go 12/12 right away and start researching for your next grow. These plants are not happy. Maybe the 12/12 cycle will revive them and maybe at the end of the day u will get some decent weed. But I would look to the future... get this grow finished and start planning for ur next one which will surely be more successful !

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I have some light leakage issues, when I fixed it I'll start 12/12 right away.

I'll update thread for new development, thanks all for your precious advices.

Say hi to a new problem!!

One plant got those spots, picture covers almost every spot. It looks like something dropped and bleached it. They also look like a little pink.

Please advise:/


Btw i switched 12/12 2 days ago.

Worst thing about 12/12 Is i couldn't check girls when its dark (i dont have green light) Just hoping its just an isolated incident

It seems like not spreading for now.

update: it seems flowering was the solution after all they still have some problems but far more better than before.

now i need some side/bottom lights because light penetration of cfls sucks.

gonna post pics later for more advices

thanks again

Pics from last night. Day 20 from light switch.

fix over-watering, maybe some extra air..........re-assess in a few days. keep those temps down. when you break the Rules of Ideal Growing Conditions, you must be punished, and cannabis will oblige.