White Poison - 2 liter Hempy SOG

DSB65

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Awesome man ..im going to try copy your grow...but just a few quick questions ill have to start with seed on my first run then have clones for next batch...what would be the best medium to start seeds in...can i run several strains....and what would be the best strains for this....thanks...plus rep....
 

Xare

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You can start a seed in a peat puck and plant that in a hempy pot to grow a mother.

But do not use Lucas Formula with a seedling or young plant. When a plant is premature it has different feeding needs. Like higher amounts of nitrogen that a Veg Specific hydro nute can provide.

Ive grown from seed using lucas but the results slow and deficient until the plant matures. Keeping mothers in veg on lucas is no problem, its just that young premature plants from seed do not like it.

Id try something like CNS 17 grow till they are two months old. I think a seedling would have a better chance in a hempy pot with the right nutes.

As for strains, a potent indica would branch more fully and give a better yield. The strain I have is a sativa dominant hybrid.
 

Xare

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The results of my one gallon hempy tester look interesting.




The main stem is alot thicker all the way up the plant. And the lower branching seems to have better bulk.

I will weigh it separately from the other two liter hempys when its dry.

The one gallon hempy grew at the same pace as the rest and did not finish any taller. But it appears to have more girth.
 

fictionalgrower

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I just read this entire journal from the beginning and I have to say wow. I have started a micro SoG with 16 sites using 32oz containers and soil. I may have to convert to Hempy's too.

+ rep and sub'd
 

Xare

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Yep this is my first time trying Defoliation / Stripping of fans and I really like it :-P


The final dry weight is in.


Its a grand total of 420 Grams haha ! :leaf::weed::leaf:


That works out to 16.8 grams per SOG clone. And .7 grams per watt !!!

15 Ounces.



Usually when I lolly-pop I get 11-12 ounces. 12-13.5 grams per clone and just over .5 grams per watt.

So this technique is a nice improvement to my yield. The lower buds that are on the branches developed well and added nicely to the harvest.
 

infinitescrog

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Xare, after running the test 1 Gal. pot, would you recommend it over a 2 L? It's twice the amount of media, but only 25% better yield. You said it didn't finish any taller, so that's a plus, and would you say the footprint of the 1 Gal. is significantly bigger? (i.e. how many plants do you lose by going with a bigger pot?)
 

Xare

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The footprint of an individual hempy 1 gal is bigger and the two liters are quite narrow comparatively. But I could still fit 25 one gallon hempys in my 4 x 4 space without any problems.

I would not have to adjust my drip system or anything. They would totally fill up all the space tho.

Yes you got that right on , its twice as much media for a small gain in yield, I would need to buy a bigger media mixing tub if I switched to 1 gallon size in the future. Along with buying some one gallon pots and new run-off dishes for them to sit in. Or one big tray that I could catch everything in and empty if needed.


If optimum yields is your goal its worth dealing with the extra media but two liters will work well as ive shown.
 

fictionalgrower

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Xare,
This thread is an inspiration to all of my future grows. Amazing job.

As soon as I can I plan to send more rep your way.
 

420fied

Member
Xare,

I'm getting ready to run a 32 plant Hempy run in 1.5 gallon buckets using a 75/25 Perm/Verm mixture under dual 600's on a 4x6 footprint. I'm glad I found your thread and it's been an awesome read. You have documented a lot of great info here and anyone that is thinking of growing Hempy should read it. Also, I love the defoliation on days 21 and 45 of flower. I have read about it but never tried it. I am definitely going to defoliate on this run. Thanks for the great thread.
 

OB 1

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Xare,

I'm getting ready to run a 32 plant Hempy run in 1.5 gallon buckets using a 75/25 Perm/Verm mixture under dual 600's on a 4x6 footprint. I'm glad I found your thread and it's been an awesome read. You have documented a lot of great info here and anyone that is thinking of growing Hempy should read it. Also, I love the defoliation on days 21 and 45 of flower. I have read about it but never tried it. I am definitely going to defoliate on this run. Thanks for the great thread.
Hey 420fied! Glad to see you posting here, and I agree, this is a great thread. I bet you'll out produce your last scrog with a similar setup. Hope you'll let me know if you put up a journal again... (I was OBXGardener on the old site)

I defoliated on my last vertical grow, and it seemed to work pretty well.
 

420fied

Member
Hi OBX!!!!!Great to see you as well man..... Actually, I have amended the original plan and I'm going to run about 120 in 2 liters like Xare did... I have everything ready, I'm just waiting on my mothers to get to the point where they can give me 100+ clones. I just finished up a run of Aero and decided to try Hempy to maximize my space and yield. I plan on journaling the entire grow so look for it over there.
 

OB 1

Active Member
Hi OBX!!!!!Great to see you as well man..... Actually, I have amended the original plan and I'm going to run about 120 in 2 liters like Xare did... I have everything ready, I'm just waiting on my mothers to get to the point where they can give me 100+ clones. I just finished up a run of Aero and decided to try Hempy to maximize my space and yield. I plan on journaling the entire grow so look for it over there.
I'm actually banned from 420mag - check out my journal if you want the whole story, since it brings me down to recount it. Anyway, I hope you'll consider putting it up here. Irishboy is posting here now, and I'm hoping Setting Sun will come over too. Too much negative energy at the old site right now. Things have really changed.
 
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