CFL MAGIC
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No I've only tested the water I'm puttin into the soil...with basic strips
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CFL MAGIC
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Lockout is def a possibility...
MichiganMedGrower
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You need to know the ec/ppm of your water to know how to mix nutes and manage the medium.
I use well water and need to leach the pots with a gallon of fresh water once in a while and also watering to a good 15-25% runoff helps clear the calcium buildup blocking the roots.
Also washing out excess buildup helps bring the soil back in ph range.
I never ph my nutes or water in potting soil. The lime or oyster shell buffers the mediums ph automatically.
I do check after I mix soil a couple days after to make sure it is in range before planting.
Keep in mind my well water is always 8.0 ph. But only 100ppm mineral content. Ph doesn’t matter.
If I had 250 or more ppm in the water alone I would mix with filtered water down to 150 ppm.
Yeah, id take a soil sample and test it, if it was myself. (concerning the yellow tops)
Sulphur deficiency looks pretty similar too. So can calcium sometimes.
If you check the ph, and the ph is in that 6-6.5 range, i'd opt for top dressing with some gypsum. (calcium sulfate)
The gypsum won't raise or lower your ph. But it will keep things nice and stable. It'll also provide you with calcium, ans sulphur.
Gypsum has some fantastic properties as well. Encouraging the formation of magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt) in the soil, being one of them.
I freaking love gypsum. Barely have any bad to say about it.
If im honest, although it definitely looks like iron deficiency. If you've been using bottled nutrients, or it isn't reused soil, there's likely sufficient iron levels already.
First thing i'd do is get a proper ph reading of your soil.
CFL MAGIC
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All I've ever done is eyeball everything n mix by feel....I tryna keep it real simple...it's not really that complicated n doesn't have to be I jus grow for myself n my girl 1-2 plants at a time...I may check into all that stuff if I ever expand outta the closet...the only reason I even ph'd the water is bc I found some packs of strips at work n was curious ha...
CFL MAGIC
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Lime n Epson is part of my soil mix for every grow...n top dressed occasionally
Me too.
I'm only sharing this because its what has happened to myself as well. If i didn't think it would help, i wouldn't say, and i'm trying to explain things as simply as possible.
I grew up in the veggie garden, as a kid. Always loved the dirt, and creepy crawlies.
Had the chore of tending to my parents compost piles, and livestock. My first grows were grown with table scraps, and livestock manure.
Im exactly like you my friend. I always go by what i see, and feel with soil as well.
By no means am i bragging. Just want you to know, that i know where you're coming from.
Only reason i'm suggesting these amendments is because growing organically, without testing, we need to know what to amend with. That's all.
I have experience amending soil, same as yourself. I'm trying to help.
If your ph checks out, and your not overfeeding, then your soil needs amending. All it is.
It's not what i'm suggesting. Gypsum isn't lime.
I suggest you find the ph of your soil. I can't personally feel comfortable helping you without yourself, or myself knowing. We're all guessing. No offense.
We can't properly see, or feel, and smell your soil. So data like soil ph, water ph, water ec, feed ec, waste ec, and all your amendments really hepls us all.
Ph lockout, or nutrient lockout due to antagonism? Imo this is what you need to determine, so you know the plan forward.
Help us, help you.
Take it easy. Hope you fix your problem.
MichiganMedGrower
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I get that. Hell I only use potting soil, well water and a grow nute bottle for when the soil depleted of nutrients in the final pot.
But if you have hard water you will have problems unless you work with it properly.
CFL MAGIC
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Thanks...yes I believe my water is hard bc it's dries my skin out....so jus to kinda side step all that I'ma start gettin those refill jugs I've seen at Walmart/Kroger...
CFL MAGIC
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Thanks...n I do appreciate the help...I'ma switch to the refill jugs from store^^...if things don't turn around or if they worsen I'll def reach out to you or Michigan for some advice...
Definitely sounds like you're onto something with the water. Good idea.
I love gypsum. Because i can add acidic things like rich manures, and peat to my mix. The gypsum helps the ph stay really stable instead of causing it to rise, or fall.
Adding a touch of dolomite to gypsum is a great combo too.
I highly recommend gypsum. Its worth it's weight in gold.
Good luck.
Tbf i believe you may have found the solution in your water anyway.
Hope they come around.
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CFL MAGIC
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Thanks... yeah when u was talkin bout pH stabilizing n calcium I thought u were tlkn bout the D lime...sounds like they'd go well together...I sumtimes mix in compost/manure as well...but I'm out at the moment...jus thru this mix n set up together when we moved in to get something goin didn't have the compost/manure on hand...I'll have some next batch
No problem mate.
You probably know already, but just watch really green manures indoors.
Speaking from my own mistake, when i tried indoors. Smells like shit lol, and thermally the pot gets very warm, because of all the microbial life. Funny but true story.
I'm pretty new to the indoor scene, but anything brown should be fine.
If you use rich green amendments, you'll probably have to compost your soil months in advance.
Anyways, happy growing bro.
Best,
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