which torch is sufficient

is their any specs to look for in regards to torch type that work best?
would any of these be suficient enough for glass nails http://dx.com/s/torch

what about the 10-15$ pipe torches at hardware stores, does using propane give different properties vs butane? because those are bigger canisters and are cheaper....

Go to BB&B with a 20% coupon and get the bonjour pro....pretty much a vector torch for around 25 bucks and they are awesome for heating dab related gear!!

you dont want one of those tiny cigar torches, a regular coleman propane torch will do the trick, cheep long-lasting, and very durable.
as a rather serious dabber, I recommend putting a little dough into your oil rig/setup.
the standard glass nails that they sell along with the domes are awful quality, they can break from being heated up, or cooling too fast.
either go with Titanium nail or a solid quartz nail, Ive been through a few nails already and its not fun.
happy dabbing!

I use a Vector Torch (its like $75-150) but I think it is worth it! I have dabbed for like 2 years with friends too and well they knock that shit over when high lol. I have sent it to vector to be replaced twice and had no problems getting a new unit.


That said Bed Bath & Beyond.......store actually has a useful item!

trichmasta said:

Go to BB&B with a 20% coupon and get the bonjour pro....pretty much a vector torch for around 25 bucks and they are awesome for heating dab related gear!!

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I have both a vector nitro AND a bonjour pro from BB&B, they ARE the same torch, packaged under different names. The only difference is the color of the plastic on it...and about 30 bucks. Trich is right, go to bed bath and beyond and get the bonjour pro...

Or if you're crazy into doing dabs, for like 75 bucks you can get the blazer big shot. Now THAT is a torch. If you re really in a pinch, a propane torch from the hardware store will do for glass or quartz nails, but don't use one for Ti nails, since propane burns at 3500 degree Fahrenheit, and oxidizes the Ti too quickly.

Metasynth said:

...snip... If you re really in a pinch, a propane torch from the hardware store will do for glass or quartz nails, but don't use one for Ti nails, since propane burns at 3500 degree Fahrenheit, and oxidizes the Ti too quickly.

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Very interesting. Ive had to scrape off an ash like substance that covered my Ti nail before, nice knowing what it is now.

TheKansasCityChiefer said:

Very interesting. Ive had to scrape off an ash like substance that covered my Ti nail before, nice knowing what it is now.

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It's titanium dioxide, and it'll still appear after using a butane torch too, but butane only burns at 2500 degrees, so it doesn't happen as fast. Some people say its a protective layer that presents the Ti from oxidizing further, but I think it just made me wanna switch to quartz full time.

haha wah wah wah. smoking off an oxidized nail for 50 years does the equivalent damage to your body as walking 1 block down a busy city block breathing exhaust gases of passing cars, which actually damages the body unlike a oxidized nail. or standing within 100 feet of your car while youre fueling it and breathing in the "fumes" id imagine does "damage" to your body.
the damage that an oxidized nail does is probably so insignificant, that the time one sat on their lazy ass and typed how they dont like oxidized/ti nails did more damage to the body.

complain about how unhealthy TI nails are then go smoke a cigarette then make a bowl of no name mac n cheese and sleep till noon the next day... yeah, thats much healthier.

I think people should worry about other things damaging their body than the nails they have 5-10 hoots off per day.

Map gas torch from Home Depot.

the nails that i saw were short and thick and not long and skinny like the ones i see on youtube. it also cost $25 for the globe/adapter set up whic im not sure if thats good or bad. also how would i know if its glass or quartz

vradd said:

the nails that i saw were short and thick and not long and skinny like the ones i see on youtube. it also cost $25 for the globe/adapter set up whic im not sure if thats good or bad. also how would i know if its glass or quartz

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25$ is pretty cheep when it comes to oil rigs.
I know the nail Ive got now is quartz because the chick in the head shop dropped it onto tile floor and it just bounced around no chips or cracks. but it cost $100 for the quartz "domeless" nail (pictured)
My old glass nail broke from being heated too much...

The adapter piece is necessary if your trying to dab out of a glass-on-glass bubbler/bong, something that has a female slot for a bowl head.
If its just an oil piece that it has a male stem, meaning you only need the nail and the dome.

Metasynth said:

It's titanium dioxide, and it'll still appear after using a butane torch too, but butane only burns at 2500 degrees, so it doesn't happen as fast. Some people say its a protective layer that presents the Ti from oxidizing further, but I think it just made me wanna switch to quartz full time.

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Titanium dioxide is highly inert, and once oxidixed and nitrated, the protective layer stops corrosion. Titanium, Zirconium, Gold, Chromium, Nickle, etc are all considered stainless, not because they don't corrode, but because they corrode very fast, but in a very thin layer, which protects the rest of the surface from further corrosion.

You can note that when breaking in Borosilicate or Quartz wands and nails, versus Titanium wands and nails. If it isn't pre-seasoned, the Titanium starts off with a strong metalic taste, but rapidly fades to no added taste, while the Borosilicate and Quartz will always add a hot glass taste.

The light grey ash that forms on the pipes, is from the hydrocarbons that are being dabbed on them. I routinely clean my Ti by superheating it so that all carbon is reduced to CO2, same is in a self cleaning oven.

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RobTheViking420 said:

Map gas torch from Home Depot.

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Is that the yellow torch?

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Is that the yellow torch?

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Yes, Mapp gas tanks are yellow.

Just got my e-nail. Bwa ha ha. Dabbing is better when you can control the temp.

No matter what torch I use I anticipate it to be my last because I have a paranoia about it exploding

I use bernzomatic propane torch with a flint ignition. I have been using the same one for about late August. Costed me 25 dollars if I recall. My torch has a three flame set up so it heats up my nail evenly.

At home I use an electric nail. On the road, I use what ever I can get my hands on that works.

Hotter and faster is better.

You can get enails for a decent price. Been using the 420 life one I bought off Amazon for $150 for about 5 months so far. This exact one. Comes with universal domeless Ti nail coil is 20mm. Only difference is pretty sure mine says 420 instead of 710 on it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01543U7IC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1449773450&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=e+nail&dpPl=1&dpID=41WzIGX82wL&ref=plSrch