Where did your God come from?

superloud

superloud

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Everytime I get into a religious conversation with people They tell me well if you can't look around you and see all the amazing things in this world and see that God exists then you are ignorant. So if God explains everything around me then what explains your God that is even more amazing than everything around me because he created it all?
 
superloud said:
Everytime I get into a religious conversation with people They tell me well if you can't look around you and see all the amazing things in this world and see that God exists then you are ignorant. So if God explains everything around me then what explains your God that is even more amazing than everything around me because he created it all?
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he came from the imagination...of ready writers
 
god is the light

god is everything

god made all matter

the sun is made of all matter

god existed before everything ...... Everything is made of matter

light was before matter ...... God is light ...... God is everthing.


sub-atomic particles explains this.


light is coloured......a rainbow is his signature.

"" and i leave my bow(rainbow) in the clouds with an agreement with the earths people""

god was light before flesh or any living or non living matter .

this i know is true.
 
mainliner said:
god is the light

god is everything

god made all matter

the sun is made of all matter

god existed before everything ...... Everything is made of matter

light was before matter ...... God is light ...... God is everthing.


sub-atomic particles explains this.


light is coloured......a rainbow is his signature.

"" and i leave my bow(rainbow) in the clouds with an agreement with the earths people""

god was light before flesh or any living or non living matter .

this i know is true.
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But then where did your God come from. I understand you believe he is everything and made everything but where did he come from
 
your tiltle says "your god"
theres one word which i don't believe in this short vid and that's Jesus.

i don't believe Jesus is god due to many reason's, one being he was caught praying on his knees in private by ( i think ) David ?? Why would he pray to god when he is god ?? This makes no sense..... He was caught red handed!! And the trinity is just booyaa!! There's only one and it ain't Jesus.

the storys in the bible are "based on a true story" and Totally miss understood by man for reasons only known by a few.....this i know is true.

Someone came out of the woodwork to try and fix the problems and NOBODY knows who.

i believe non of them for one simple reason, if she did her death would have been much more severe then her son's .
 
superloud said:
Everytime I get into a religious conversation with people They tell me well if you can't look around you and see all the amazing things in this world and see that God exists then you are ignorant. So if God explains everything around me then what explains your God that is even more amazing than everything around me because he created it all?
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ok this all comes down to a thought of life is god

nothing just black and life starts (by making the perfect thing the number super duper being god ) with the birth of go also came the birth of death

now god and death are there with nothing else ......god said this is wrong i got some ideas lets try things (big bang /god spoke) what ever u want to call it things happen (side note string theory does go along with bible thinking everything vibrates at a set freq (everything water rock u metal everything) god spoke and what are words but vibrating particles traveling in space)

ok so the universe is made ..........the stars make the heavier elements plants for galaxy life .........as we are in the milk way on one of the outer arm our world/sun was formed much later then the center of the milk way ( so god came out here made this made us and started life here ) as with everything in life it alters changes and evolves so monkey to man (god making us could be that missing link but with a genetic code of 98% matching sorry humans were monkeys )

now using history ppl with more advance tech have always been mistake as gods ............what if angels are well real thing that are one of the first races that just works for god/life .........this idea would explain the whole bible how the jews can live 40 years in desert ............then u can combine this idea with other tribes from around the world that say the earth has been destroyed before this is the 5th time man has been put on earth (the freaky thing even the greeks and romans have that same idea with men being made out of gold silver stone mud )

as for jesus that is the same story in life...........one day god will die and child will replace it might be trillions of years as we know it but all living things have 2 things in common 1 they are born 2 they die
 
the other idea is god is that little magnetic force that holds all of us together (keeping the particles that make us up in place)
and if that is true god can never die as long as something of the universe is still there ........it could explain why needed son to do action later on too
 
superloud said:
Everytime I get into a religious conversation with people They tell me well if you can't look around you and see all the amazing things in this world and see that God exists then you are ignorant
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I don't know what kinda religious people your debating that would give you such a lame explanation of their beliefs but in my eyes religion boils down to one issue .

Faith .

That's the one word explanation why any educated human being believes in God , something inside them/us tells us there is a God so our interest is piqued & we study the scriptures available to us , once a person understands God's words from educating themselves they are drawn further into Faith ,or dismiss religion as a hoax used to control humanity in a time where people needed the most basic structure of laws .

I was raised in a Christian family & chose not to believe as a child , as a man I studied several religions & read the Old Testament & New Testament , what I learned & felt while studying awoke a feeling in me where I knew there was a God , after meeting my wife who is Muslim I read the Quran & what I learned only reinforced my belief in God because the teachings are so similar .

In order to believe in God one must have Faith , with that Faith comes an understanding that there are many unexplained issues science can't explain & the origins of God is one of the issues man has yet to understand ,or God's origins were lost to the ages .

Why is knowing how God was created having an effect on your beliefs ?
 
As Panhead stated above, it is a matter of faith, not evidence. I don't have the faith gene, so I do not believe. Logically speaking, introducing a deity to explain anything only compounds the problem. Which is your question, where did the creator come from? Some say that their god has always existed, and had no beginning. If that's the case, why not say the universe/multi-verse has always existed and cut out the middleman?
 
superloud said:
So if God explains everything around me then what explains your God that is even more amazing than everything around me because he created it all?
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'God is the infinite, necessarily existing, unique substance of the universe. There is only one substance in the universe; it is God; and everything else that is, is in God.'

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/#GodNat

God is not a being, a creator, or a man in the sky. That's like describing an elephant with the intelligence of an ant. God is everything and everywhere, everything is god. I am god, you are god, we are all god, this joint is god too, and so is the fire and the smoke, and the universe its in.

God is everything, and therefore nothing meaningful.
 
Ahh infinite regress. One of the few places special pleading cannot hide. It has the effect of pushing the God hypothesis into unfalsifiable territory. It is the place beyond which the goalposts cannot be moved, and so the invocation of faith becomes a necessity.

IOW, it's a good questions to ask, but it will always get you the faith card in return if you push it. It's what some call fleeing from fact. People start out talking about evidence (the world is amazing/complicated) but when that evidence is questioned and indefensible, they resort to feelings. When the subject is god, the retreat is to faith. With other beliefs, like say psychics, the retreat is to opinion. They start by saying there is evidence for psychics, and when you show the evidence to be flawed, well that's just your opinion. Suddenly we aren't talking about facts any longer.

It's something all humans are prone to do, especially if the belief is closely tied to their identity.
 
mainliner said:
your tiltle says "your god"
theres one word which i don't believe in this short vid and that's Jesus.

i don't believe Jesus is god due to many reason's, one being he was caught praying on his knees in private by ( i think ) David ?? Why would he pray to god when he is god ?? This makes no sense..... He was caught red handed!! And the trinity is just booyaa!! There's only one and it ain't Jesus.

the storys in the bible are "based on a true story" and Totally miss understood by man for reasons only known by a few.....this i know is true.

Someone came out of the woodwork to try and fix the problems and NOBODY knows who.

i believe non of them for one simple reason, if she did her death would have been much more severe then her son's .
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So your God is the Higgs Bosson?
 
justugh said:
ok this all comes down to a thought of life is god

nothing just black and life starts (by making the perfect thing the number super duper being god ) with the birth of go also came the birth of death

now god and death are there with nothing else ......god said this is wrong i got some ideas lets try things (big bang /god spoke) what ever u want to call it things happen (side note string theory does go along with bible thinking everything vibrates at a set freq (everything water rock u metal everything) god spoke and what are words but vibrating particles traveling in space)

ok so the universe is made ..........the stars make the heavier elements plants for galaxy life .........as we are in the milk way on one of the outer arm our world/sun was formed much later then the center of the milk way ( so god came out here made this made us and started life here ) as with everything in life it alters changes and evolves so monkey to man (god making us could be that missing link but with a genetic code of 98% matching sorry humans were monkeys )

now using history ppl with more advance tech have always been mistake as gods ............what if angels are well real thing that are one of the first races that just works for god/life .........this idea would explain the whole bible how the jews can live 40 years in desert ............then u can combine this idea with other tribes from around the world that say the earth has been destroyed before this is the 5th time man has been put on earth (the freaky thing even the greeks and romans have that same idea with men being made out of gold silver stone mud )

as for jesus that is the same story in life...........one day god will die and child will replace it might be trillions of years as we know it but all living things have 2 things in common 1 they are born 2 they die
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But that still dosent answer it if everything has to be made by something then there is no logical answer. god is an easy way to explain us but there is no way to explain god. Either some sort of supreme being appeared one day and made everything or some sort of particle appeared one day and through billions of years has turned into humans and planets and everything else. Either way pretty unexplainable And illogical.
 
panhead said:
I don't know what kinda religious people your debating that would give you such a lame explanation of their beliefs but in my eyes religion boils down to one issue .

Faith .

That's the one word explanation why any educated human being believes in God , something inside them/us tells us there is a God so our interest is piqued & we study the scriptures available to us , once a person understands God's words from educating themselves they are drawn further into Faith ,or dismiss religion as a hoax used to control humanity in a time where people needed the most basic structure of laws .

I was raised in a Christian family & chose not to believe as a child , as a man I studied several religions & read the Old Testament & New Testament , what I learned & felt while studying awoke a feeling in me where I knew there was a God , after meeting my wife who is Muslim I read the Quran & what I learned only reinforced my belief in God because the teachings are so similar .

In order to believe in God one must have Faith , with that Faith comes an understanding that there are many unexplained issues science can't explain & the origins of God is one of the issues man has yet to understand ,or God's origins were lost to the ages .

Why is knowing how God was created having an effect on your beliefs ?
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Because I think logically. And all of human logic tells us that something cannot just appear out of nowhere. There has to be a creator.So is there a more powerful God that made our God and if so where did that guy come from. My faith is impacted by my logical thinking.
 
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