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Trying4440

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Foliage Pro from start to finish is an easy recipe for success. Stop buying products with pinups, dinosaurs and candy pops on the labels, you're not buying fruit punch for your kids.
Ya but it looks hella cool right Lol....its made by foxfarm so I guess I looked past the dinosaurs but thanks for the info
 

PadawanWarrior

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I don't know of any professional growers who use Foxfarm nutes. Their Ocean Forest potting mix is widely used, but I would steer clear of their nute line myself.
That's one thing that gets me. They sell some decent organic soil, and then sell you a bunch of chemicals to kill it.

I don't have any problem with their organic dry amendments or BigBloom though. I started in FFOF and turned it into no-till.
 

PJ Diaz

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That's one thing that gets me. They sell some decent organic soil, and then sell you a bunch of chemicals to kill it.

I don't have any problem with their organic dry amendments or BigBloom though. I started in FFOF and turned it into no-till.
Personally I don't believe that synthetic nutes will kill off your micro-herd. I mean, sure if you feed to the point of toxicity, but then your starting to kill your plants too.
 

PJ Diaz

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Do you reuse your soil?
I use coco/perlite for indoor grows, and I do reuse it. Outdoor I use potting mix in containers, which technically isn't really soil, but yes I have a dumping pile that I reuse in beds later. I mean I did take a College level soil science horticulture class years ago, and they didn't ever mention nutes killing off microbes.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I use coco/perlite for indoor grows, and I do reuse it. Outdoor I use potting mix in containers, which technically isn't really soil, but yes I have a dumping pile that I reuse in beds later. I mean I did take a College level soil science horticulture class years ago, and they didn't ever mention nutes killing off microbes.
If I used coco, I'd use chemicals too. I have some coco and the GH nutes to experiment with sometime. I'm not a fan of using it in organic soil though.

What does college level mean? Do you mean a high school class, or did you actually graduate from college? Not to be a dick, but you mentioned it.
 

PJ Diaz

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If I used coco, I'd use chemicals too. I have some coco and the GH nutes to experiment with sometime. I'm not a fan of using it in organic soil though.

What does college level mean? Do you mean a high school class, or did you actually graduate from college? Not to be a dick, but you mentioned it.
College level means that I took the class at a College and received college credit. No I didn't graduate with a Hort degree, but since you're asking I did just re-enroll in that same College (which I already have a different degree from), so that I can also get my Hort Agro-Tech degree by next year. I've already completed most of the classes for the degree 20+ years ago, so I just need to take four more hort classes and four computer science classes for the agro-tech degree. I thought about just getting the normal Hort degree, but I like the tech side of things, and learning to build and program my own sensors and stuff sounds cool.

EDIT: Looks like I did pretty well the semester that I took soil science too..

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Trying4440

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Will it was hard but I gave my ladies pure ph 5.7 water only for the last 2 watering and there doing quite good to the point where I'm scared to do anything to make them upset why to do what to do??? : QUESTION.....if there was any type of lock out THET WOUNDNT HAVE RESPONDED TO MY LAST 2WATERINGS ???????
 

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Slicksmitty

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Roughly 3 weeks into flower using dyna-gro bloom gro orchid-pro.....and mag-pro I water 2times a week feed only one of those times I give them 2teaspoon of each of aboved mintioned per 5 gallons of water and I use a pH down to get it about 5.6 5.8 what is burning them?
Wow, from the leaves looks like nute burn but not sure there are a few things that can affect your leaves in a similar way. Are these low or high in your plant?
 

Trying4440

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Well let’s see ….

Fox Farm mix - already nuted
Miracle grow - Hella nuted ( slow release ) EVERYTIME YOU WATER. Pelletized Nutes.
Dyna gro orchid - MORE nute
PH kinda low ( 5.8 more like coco / hydro range ) needs around 6.5

Equals over nute ….. BURNSVILLE.
Hey bro ok my girls are doing better I was wondering I didn't cut some of the lower branches earlier because they had problems and didn't want to add more stress to them ..now that there 2 weeks in to flower and doing good is it to late to cut the lower sucker branches off or should I leave them be ??..thanks in advance
 

Trying4440

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Hey bro ok my girls are doing better I was wondering I didn't cut some of the lower branches earlier because they had problems and didn't want to add more stress to them ..now that there 2 weeks in to flower and doing good is it to late to cut the lower sucker branches off or should I leave them be ??..thanks in advance
I mean 3 and a half weeks into flower I'm burnt lol
 

Three Berries

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Are you watering to run off? I just finished a grow and want to reuse the soil, FoxFarm Happy Frog. pH was around 5.5 of the water I flushed through it. I flushed with about 5 gallons, two of the gallons with a pint of limestone dissolved in it. Water used is 7.4.

I also will do another pail of new Happy Frog. I ran2 gallons of water to soak the soil and am waiting for it to drain to see what the original pH is.

Using the 3.5 gallon buckets. They did not get near the root bound as the 2 gallon ones I was using.
 

Budzbuddha

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Are you watering to run off? I just finished a grow and want to reuse the soil, FoxFarm Happy Frog. pH was around 5.5 of the water I flushed through it. I flushed with about 5 gallons, two of the gallons with a pint of limestone dissolved in it. Water used is 7.4.

I also will do another pail of new Happy Frog. I ran2 gallons of water to soak the soil and am waiting for it to drain to see what the original pH is.

Using the 3.5 gallon buckets. They did not get near the root bound as the 2 gallon ones I was using.
Fox Farm soil tends to float around 6.3 ( out of bag ) But “ flushing “ new soil unnecessarily just leaches it , it begins to wash it / diluting the elements that were ratio to it. All of their soil are prebuffered - throwing gallons at it begins to erode the buffers. Absolutely zero reason to “ check run off “ …. The most important thing to remember is to PH whats going IN IT . If you target the ph that matches medium / plant requirements then you don’t have to check what comes out.
 

Three Berries

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Fox Farm soil tends to float around 6.3 ( out of bag ) But “ flushing “ new soil unnecessarily just leaches it , it begins to wash it / diluting the elements that were ratio to it. All of their soil are prebuffered - throwing gallons at it begins to erode the buffers. Absolutely zero reason to “ check run off “ …. The most important thing to remember is to PH whats going IN IT . If you target the ph that matches medium / plant requirements then you don’t have to check what comes out.
Yes I saved the flush! I was just wanting to see what is was new. My water is 7.4, full of limestone. I just started to adjust the water/nute to a higher pH as it was around 6.0 after I mix. But then again I was not watering to run off and I think that is the real problem.

With the Fox Farm i don't add any nutes until it's half though veg. it just makes the best looking two-three week old plants I've ever seen. Wish I could keep them growing like that.
 

Syntax747

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it was hard but I gave my ladies pure ph 5.7 water only for the last 2 watering and there doing quite good to the point where I'm scared to do anything to make them upset why to do what to do??? : QUESTION.....if there was any type of lock out THET WOUNDNT HAVE RESPONDED TO MY LAST 2WATERINGS ???????
5.7 pH is good for coco, not soil.
 
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