I am on my first shot with sunflowers, corn and tomatos, they are all doing good. I am having more success with growing from seeed than even b4. Herb has such great life lknowledge and provides motivation for those otherwise "could give a shit". Plus it seems more yours if you start it from seed. Dont use those crappy little pete discs. jiffy pots and a bit of perlite on the bottom is good for everything. I am a first time home owner and my yard looks freakin great, especially since it started out so bad. Inside and out. out of a half acre like an 1/8 weeds "the invasive lawn ones"........thanks for the wind tip on the sf.