When to add Organic fertilizers?

High4Life said:

This crap has been talked about a million times on this site and other and im not the only 1 that believes there products are false ..

Use biobizz with out a final flush then come back and tell me is total orgain ..

Your a fucking waist of space man

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mate i dont flush i feed right up to the end, altho i do drop the doses im still feeding, and i can because bio bizz IS 100% certified organic, ffs man if you knew about bio bizz feeding schedules (not the one on their website, youl burn yr plants if you follow that) you would know that you up the grow slightly towards the end(you use grow+bloom throughout bloom because they are not complete ferts by themselves) because bio grow is basically mollases based and upping the grow towards the end gives a smoother better burning weed as if you are using mollases to the end, ffs open the bottle of bio grow and smell, smells like mollases, no? i mentioned i do all this in other threads before mentioning it here, fuck me mate dont believe me? sign up to uk420.com and browse theyre forums, the uk is the main consumer of bio bizz products, bio bizz is our "staple" tried and tested nutrient brand, anyway check uk420 and you`l find hundreds of members using bio bizz the way i describe, getting buds bigger than my legs using it with no flush, its not needed, besides most organic nutes cannot be flushed from soil the NPK becomes "fixed" by the micro herd/bacteria consuming and processing them, why do you think fields stay fertile for years and produce crop after crop with little fertilizer and rain washing "flushing" as you call it, the soil all the time, the only time you flush when growing organically is if you fuck up and over fert, do you see farmers dumping millions of gallons of water over their crops to flush them before they are harvested and eaten by us?? i didnt think so! i dont sell my weed but anyone who smokes my weed loves it and says its close to, or the best weed theyve smoked, and theyre always pestering me all the time to buy some off me, shit they dont even know i grow, ive been smoking weed 15years and i know my shit is far superior to probably 80% of the weed on sale in london right now, and i know people who have been smoking much longer than me and they love my weed too so i must be doing something right!

hey i got your back 100 perent on this londoner. you would never want to feed you seedlings fertz like that when there are so young. but thanks for the help im going to check up on them tonight and will get back to you later tonight. thanks too billy i see where you are both coming from! THANKS CRIPPLED!

crippledguy said:

hey i got your back 100 perent on this londoner. you would never want to feed you seedlings fertz like that when there are so young. but thanks for the help im going to check up on them tonight and will get back to you later tonight. thanks too billy i see where you are both coming from! THANKS CRIPPLED!

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no problem mate, i dunno whats wrong with the guy? i disagreed with him as did many others because he claimed interupting a plants dark cycle with one hour of light is beneficial, i mean thats what this place is about right? sharing views and hearing others opinions, then he starts posting pics on my threads of run down shithole flats with junked up women saying thats me in my stinking london flat with my girlfriend?? wtf man?? the guys views are whack!

What high4life is saying was all on this site at one stage . Many of us feed once the 1st real cannabis leafs come out ,The plant is then in vegetation mode and will be scearching for some food the leafs will go yellow if cant find any vits.

I do not use any biobizz but its no myth ive seen people all over this site a few years back claiming there products to be false orgainics making the taste unpleasent and causing headaches .

Up to your self though whats made from it what ever suits you best

i dont understand you would'nt need to feed your plant once you see the first leave set because if you know anything about organic soil it is already preload with nutes until your plants show that they need more nutes. high4life is getting pretty ridiculous and as of right now organic im on LONDONERS side.. right londoner? peace

Yes if your soil is organic it will be already full of its vital Vits for a few months you shouldent need to feed and the leafs should not yellow as it will be intaking nutes
Why wait untill your plant is shown signs of starvation before feeding there is lots of other signs to look for

I did not read it all i thought you were just putting your nutes/ferts in your soil for the 1st time .. I use batgauno all mix and only use water untill im ready to flower

SHOOT2KILL66 said:

What high4life is saying was all on this site at one stage . Many of us feed once the 1st real cannabis leafs come out ,The plant is then in vegetation mode and will be scearching for some food the leafs will go yellow if cant find any vits.

im sorry mate dont matter how you put it feeding that early on such a young plant in a heavily pre-ferted soil is incorrect practice, yes of course the plant starts to look for food when it grows a few leaves and photosynthesis starts, but in such soils there is always plenty and quite often too much food in the soil for such young plants, if you are using a light mix soil you can get away with feeding very weakly so early on but even still theres normally still enough food for the first week or so of growth. i mean the whole point of pre ferted soils is that you dont need to feed at least til the end of the first 3-4weeks of growth, and lack of vits does not cause yellowing.


I do not use any biobizz but its no myth ive seen people all over this site a few years back claiming there products to be false orgainics making the taste unpleasent and causing headaches .


theres a big difference between a fert company claiming its products are 100% organic with no certification to back their claims and a fert company that claims its products are 100% organic AND having numorous certifications from recognised european/international organic authorities. i have never got headaches or any such ill effects from smoking my 100% organically fed bud, niether has anybody else who has smoked my bud, i dont sell my bud and people dont know i grow it but i still get people pestering me to buy my bud, i know its far superior to probably over 80% of the weed thats sold in london right now! many people say my weed is close to or the best tasting weed theyve ever had.


Up to your self though whats made from it what ever suits you best

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pics below are two of my NL#5xhaze mist, a month old today in one gallon pots of pre fert soil approaching 2 foot tall, not fed nothing, just "eau de tap" do they look yellow? do they look like they are suffering major deficiencies? at 4 weeks old just the very first true leaves right at the very bottom of the plant are just starting to yellow slightly, evenly across the leaf, this tells me this is the first sign the plants are getting N hungry, but im still not going to feed yet, tomorrow il be transplanting into their final 11ltr pots with fresh pre fert soil which again will feed my plants for the next 2-3 weeks before they go into flower, i then can start my weak feeding schedule because the soils nute reserves will again be depleted by this time and i can feed without worry of burning, learn to read your plants and give them what they want only WHEN they need it instead of loading up the nutes so early on and hoping for the best and risk burning your plants, why?

SHOOT2KILL66 said:

Yes if your soil is organic it will be already full of its vital Vits for a few months you shouldent need to feed and the leafs should not yellow as it will be intaking nutes
Why wait untill your plant is shown signs of starvation before feeding there is lots of other signs to look for

I did not read it all i thought you were just putting your nutes/ferts in your soil for the 1st time .. I use batgauno all mix and only use water untill im ready to flower

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nobody is suggesting waiting until starvation, just to read the first signs of hunger before adding any liquid ferts. and the organic farming logo in your avatar is just one of the assured organic stamps that bio bizz products carry, if you doubt the authenticity of such organic labels why do you have it as your avatar?

Looks ok . Healthy thats the main thing

I know people that use a all mix soil from 1 of the brands and only water though out with good results

I know people that use organic nutes with every watering with no worries of overdose

The thing with those cheap organic nutes with 100% certificate on them are just like those childerns soft with the no added sugar ,
i dont trust them eather thou ive no proff other than the buds tasting a bit musty

If i am using just plain old top soil id water feed my self once the real leafs start to form Lightly of course , Then as they get stronger id add some bat shit to the soil and they thrive ,

BioBizz has on there bottle to use with every watering if i remember right .

When i go for an expencive Soil rich in nutes only ph,d water i would use untill flowering

Ive also noticed that with plain top soil and the expencive soils .. That there was no differnce in my yield .. Because i ran out of the good soil for 1 of my plants

yeah thats right mate it does say on the bottle to feed on every water, but thats based on if your using bio bizz light mix which really contains hardly any pre-fert whatsoever, i feed on every water but only after all my potting up has been done, they are rooted out in their final pots and telling me theyre getting hungry, and i use the half strength recommended dose as my maximum. yea i used to use bio bizz all mix at £16 per 50ltr bag but always had uncontrollable plagues of fungus gnats while using it, the soil must be full of their larve, but always got good results with it, switched to canna terra professional at nearly £20 per 50ltr bag which solved the gnat problem but is absolute kak, i now use westlands multipurpose with added john innes at £6 per 60ltr bag from a large chain garden centre near me and im getting better results than the bio bizz all mix.

Your like 1 of those Brands man promoting there goods passing on what they write for the buyer to read ..

My plants nothing every going yellow they be stalked up from start to finish feed them every water 1/2 max when my buds are swelling i can feed every 1-2 to make them mosterous .. never a fear of overdose

And if them cheapo biobizz are fully organic then fuck organics they make buds taste like shit Cheap fake crap it is ....

You sort of went against every thing u said to start with another know it all with a big lanky danky plant lol

Its clear you just read all that crap from the sellers .. I try and test it

and to the -repper no im not a bio bizz sales rep, i believe in the original post the question "is there any other organic nutes you guys prefer" was asked, im merely discussing what i use and how i use it, why dont you try adding to the discusion rather than -repping someone for adding their experiences.

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high4life said:

your like 1 of those brands man promoting there goods passing on what they write for the buyer to read ..

My plants nothing every going yellow they be stalked up from start to finish feed them every water 1/2 max when my buds are swelling i can feed every 1-2 to make them mosterous .. Never a fear of overdose

and if them cheapo biobizz are fully organic then fuck organics they make buds taste like shit cheap fake crap it is ....

You sort of went against every thing u said to start with another know it all with a big lanky danky plant lol

its clear you just read all that crap from the sellers .. I try and test it

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stfu.................

Yea man shoot says the exect same as me , and then you back tracked on what you saying more or less and agreed ,

People seem to get in there heads that there is only one way to grow ..

And Believe the crap the brands write to get your money . Far from it

High4Life said:

Yea man shoot says the exect same as me , and then you back tracked on what you saying more or less and agreed ,

People seem to get in there heads that there is only one way to grow ..

And Believe the crap the brands write to get your money . Far from it

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how am i backtracking on what i say? i maintain what i originaly said. i know there is many methods of growing. and if i was believing what the brands say and did what they say id be loading my plants up with nutes right at the very begining of my grows like you even tho they are in prefert soil and buying all their extra products like you mate, which is the exact opposite of what im trying to say, i use three products, bio grow bio bloom and epsom salts for any mg issues, thats it! im not promoting nothing.

All im saying is i dont believe them for 1 second that its 100% organic False advertising just like Kiddies soft drinks that is supposed to be sugar free .. There is a million ways companys work just to make there product sell because that cheap shit will not sell on the advanced market .

I do not mind as much what i use when vegging because id flush out before flowering with plan water and some nutes .. I did the same as you and recommened what i found best .. batgauno and seaweed extract spoke my feelings on biobizz

To be honest i like biobizz fish mix for veggin it is good stuff but them grow bloom and boost are shit and makes buds taste like shit too .. Fish mix is good along with batshit

Epson salts ? I only needed that when i did not use nutes there is mg is most nutrents
do you even know what your yapping about any more ?

in a word fella no! not unless u would b wanting to stunt it,s growth or kill it even,i would have thought mother nature probly supplyd enuf food in the seed pod for the first week or mor! as she,s quiet clever like tha! and they dont call it weed for nothing!

No Cannabis is not a weed like every 1 thinks ! its 1 of few living thing that take on both sexs

As ive said over and over . if there is nutes in the soil it will not starve it can grow happy untill flowering ... Understand

If there is no nutes it is safe to feed your plant when the 1st true leaf form .. Not the 1st week . Thats unually about the 3rd week . ive never overdosed my plants nor any 1 else. That how i know my plants are able to take the vits .. never no pros

I showed my plants did they look troubled .. i dont think so . The gave me an above average yield ..

depends on your interpretation of weed! sori just adding fuel to the fire!