Whats your soiless recipe?

OldMedUser

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Chunky Stool said:
I love experiments! Please keep us posted.
My next grow is going to be an organic experiment with the same base & different amendments
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I just found out today that buddy has chopped down all his plants so I can get my gear back and move that tent over here. I got the four girls that are in the two blends of soil overdue to go for serious flowering but want to perform a bit further experiment on them. I want to get some Bud Ignitor to use on one of each with Big Bud but only Big Bud on the other two to see if the Ignitor makes any real difference. Been using the BB since Dr. Horsby invented it and AN put it on the market and won't flower without it but never tried the BI.

These girls had a rough life. Sprouted middle of June then I was called away for 5 weeks so I pruned them way back so all the wife had to do was water them. They were still alive when I got back but in pretty rough shape. Got them going good now under 10 T-12s in 2 gal pots so I'll get them under a 400W halide and up-pot them to 4 - 5 gal pots and sic the hps on them. Going to get a journal going as soon as I get them set up better.

The four are experimental crosses of my own photo strain crossed with a decent auto strain. Sativa dominant and looking to develop my own auto of the photo strain I call Northern Mist. It's Kali Mist x Northern Lights #5. The originals that came from Marc Emery's seed bank about '03 and I've been growing ever since. Lots of other strains since but that's still my fave.

There are two more plants under the tubes and they are Otto#1. A very high CBD strain that has only 1% THC. Finding CBD really good for my arthritis especially in cocobudder.

Here they are 4 days ago. Getting leggy so will semi-ScroG them.

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Home made tent is gonna be great for a mom/clone/veg space. :)

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OldMedUser

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Huckster79 said:
promix hp w the good bacteria already in it and a handful of milorganite. then just use a regular nute mix whatever your using. the milorganite is an amazing slow release N and if you only do one application with any veg time its ate up by flower. Its human guano, made from city of milwaulkees poop.... Some say its really bad with heavy metals but that was based on an old old analysis which lead the city to separate its residential sewage and industrial sewage to lower that metal count. I used to use it on my lawn and you can spread it on the hottest driest day of the year and no burn, and my grass was always greener and juicier than the neighbors who used all sorts of pricey stuff so I gave it a whirl blended in with my promix and really happy with it. Little extra snack blended in for the veg..
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There's lots more than heavy metals in human fecal waste. Every prescription drug in the book. Hormones from birth control pills and the list goes on. On your lawn or ornamental plants but never on things you consume.

You are truly smoking shit.

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Huckster79

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OldMedUser said:
There's lots more than heavy metals in human fecal waste. Every prescription drug in the book. Hormones from birth control pills and the list goes on. On your lawn or ornamental plants but never on things you consume.

You are truly smoking shit.

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As we are with guano of animal types too. The stuff is baked off at like 1400 degrees.... not much we eat doesn't have shit in it. Many farm fields are fertilized with septage out of septic tanks. I know a guy that does it for a living. They offer it free to farmers and even apply it for them knifed into the soil to cut smell. Pretty sure it's raw....
 
OldMedUser

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Huckster79 said:
As we are with guano of animal types too. The stuff is baked off at like 1400 degrees.... not much we eat doesn't have shit in it. Many farm fields are fertilized with septage out of septic tanks. I know a guy that does it for a living. They offer it free to farmers and even apply it for them knifed into the soil to cut smell. Pretty sure it's raw....
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Unlike your average stoner I went back to school in my 30's and after 3 hard years got a diploma in environmental chemistry. I've grown pot since '78 and prefer hydro because I understand the difference between bad chem and good chem.

Growing pot/food with human waste is bad chem. Use that shit to fertilize forests after re-planting or toss it on your lawn but keep it out of my foods and tokes.

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Huckster79

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Y is my turd grosser than bat shit? Bird shit? This stuff isn't raw, it's a commercial product that cooks the poo go like 1400degrees to turn it into a low odor dry pellet...
 
Chorse

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I make fake Promix HP for about half the cost. Adding my own dolomite lime, myco, and perlite to either basic peat or the low end, big-box-store $14/2 cu ft (expanding to 4) ProMix. I love the HP, but the little work I have to do to mix up enough for 8, 5 gallon pots it not worth the cost. If I sold my stuff I would probably start with the HP. I like a little more Perlite and a little courser than the HP provides. Applying the myco directly to the roots at transplant I believe is better than them just mixing some quantity in. Lime is cheap.
Also a Jack's User (Citrus). Its rather silly to be afraid of the "salts". Its also silly to think that everyone needs CalMag. I personally need additional Mg (epson) but never have needed the calcium and the one time years ago I tried a calmag product it fucked me up more than helped. I use the Jack's citrus all the way through while adding my own potassium sulfate in flower. I would tell you the rate at which I add it, but then I would have to kill you. Recently read about the kitty litter addition and may try it for the sulfur,
 
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tusseltussel

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I mix a bale of peat with 24qt perlite and 16 qt of vermiculite and 4 cups of lime. It's basically the same as pro mix. Simple effective
 
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tusseltussel said:
I mix a bale of peat with 24qt perlite and 16 qt of vermiculite and 4 cups of lime. It's basically the same as pro mix. Simple effective
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You would be missing the myco and ProMix, of course, does not have the vermiculite and I do not like the stuff anyway. USA versions have some gel for its moisture retainer...and I never really like it either...would rather just water (and feed) more.
 
tusseltussel

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Chorse said:
You would be missing the myco and ProMix, of course, does not have the vermiculite and I do not like the stuff anyway. USA versions have some gel for its moisture retainer...and I never really like it either...would rather just water (and feed) more.
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If you don't like it don't use it. The ttile of the thread said whats your soiless mix, we'll there it is. It works great for me, I use it in my indoor garden and I start several thousand vegetable plants in it every spring. I guses I don't know exactly whats in pro mix, I always thought I could see vermiculite in pro mix hp, maybe I'm wrong. Ive used my mix and promix plenty never missed the mycos, that's something I'll consider adding to my mix of you think itll really help but I've never noticed a difference, never noticed this gel either.

Just looked up ingredients it does hAve vermiculite
Ingredients:
  • Canadian Sphagnum peat moss (75-85% by volume)
  • Perlite.
  • Vermiculite.
  • Dolomitic & Calcitic limestone (pH adjuster)
  • Wetting agent.
  • Mycorrhizae.
  • Biofungicide.
 
Chorse

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MANGOBICHE said:
i am going to guess that your mentally ill and have a huge propensity towards premisconceptions!
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First, I am not sure why your response came on the post where I gave RM3 a hat tip but I will assume you really meant to respond to my "boogie man" post. You made quite a leap, regardless. Many people seem to have a hard time with the concept of salts and the environment or salts and their build up or salts and their taste. I simply just wondered what your hangup was. If you don't want to share you rationale, fine...but as Steve Martin used to say...Excuuuuuse me.
 
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tusseltussel said:
If you don't like it don't use it. The ttile of the thread said whats your soiless mix, we'll there it is. It works great for me, I use it in my indoor garden and I start several thousand vegetable plants in it every spring. I guses I don't know exactly whats in pro mix, I always thought I could see vermiculite in pro mix hp, maybe I'm wrong. Ive used my mix and promix plenty never missed the mycos, that's something I'll consider adding to my mix of you think itll really help but I've never noticed a difference, never noticed this gel either.

Just looked up ingredients it does hAve vermiculite
Ingredients:
  • Canadian Sphagnum peat moss (75-85% by volume)
  • Perlite.
  • Vermiculite.
  • Dolomitic & Calcitic limestone (pH adjuster)
  • Wetting agent.
  • Mycorrhizae.
  • Biofungicide.
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You may be right about the Vermiculite in HP...I have not bothered to buy it in a couple years, but yeah to each his own. I did also read once about some other negative consequences of using it...but off the top of my head I don't remember what it was. But yeah, feel free.
 
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