What's this white fuzzy stuff on soil? Organic users advice for first grow. See pics

prosperian

prosperian

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Good morning,

I woke up to see white fuzzy stuff on my soil surface, none on the plants. Plants look great.

I'm starting week 4 of flowering, organic soil, Roots Organics Nutes, humidity at 48-50% temps 75-65.

Any ideas if this is harmful? Guys in Newb forum say to add H2O2 mixed half with water and spray it on soil? What do you think?

 
Redbird1223

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the white fuzz is mycelium. that is the white fuzz subcool always talks about when cooking super soil.
It is a sign that you have a healthy soil food web in that container, which is what you've been working to achieve with organics.

DO NOT add any h202 or chemical additives at this point, it will detrimental to the food web.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycelium


stay out of the newb section, come over here
 
prosperian

prosperian

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Redbird1223 said:
the white fuzz is mycelium. that is the white fuzz subcool always talks about when cooking super soil.
It is a sign that you have a healthy soil food web in that container, which is what you've been working to achieve with organics.

DO NOT add any h202 or chemical additives at this point, it will detrimental to the food web.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycelium


stay out of the newb section, come over here
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I feared it was powdery mildew or something that could kill them.

Thanks for clearing that up and for the invite to move over to Organics.
 
BeaverHuntr

BeaverHuntr

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Redbird1223 said:
the white fuzz is mycelium. that is the white fuzz subcool always talks about when cooking super soil.
It is a sign that you have a healthy soil food web in that container, which is what you've been working to achieve with organics.

DO NOT add any h202 or chemical additives at this point, it will detrimental to the food web.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycelium


stay out of the newb section, come over here
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WHat he said^^^^
 
Redbird1223

Redbird1223

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white fuzz on your leaves or buds is bad news
black mold of any kind is bad news

IMO, if you can see proof of one form of life (mycelium) in the soil, then you can assume its a full blown organic factory down there. feed plain r/o water for the last 2 weeks and watch that organic fade come through

also just my opinion, but those plants look small for those containers.
general rule is 1 gal = 1 month growth so 3 gal containers = 3 months growth 1 month veg/ 2 months flower
I only mention it because I have grown small plants in larger containers, and had trouble finishing on time because they kept feeding
I didn't have big enough roots on my little plants to eat all the nutes in the excess soil. I veg longer now, problem fixed.

and you're welcome, there are MANY intelligent, helpful growers here. just hangin out. all the time. :bigjoint:
 
Nullis

Nullis

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PM would occur on the plant (on the leaves, mostly). What you have is a harmless and common saprophytic fungi. As Redbird1223 said, don't listen to anyone who is telling you to apply hydrogen peroxide to your soil. Soil is supposed to be alive.

It may be possible you are watering a bit too frequently, or your medium is just staying too wet. You should leave a fan on low (oscillating) even during the night for constant air circulation.
 
Redbird1223

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in that last pic it looks like its growing out of a pumpkin pie!!!??? lol
they look nice, post more pics as they mature too please
 
prosperian

prosperian

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Redbird1223 said:
in that last pic it looks like its growing out of a pumpkin pie!!!??? lol
they look nice, post more pics as they mature too please
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Yeah it does!

Hey, I'd like to share the replies I'm getting from the same posting on the Newb thread...here is the link.

Some are suggesting I till the soil top and add some air into it? I can see my roots right at the top of the soil. Seems to me if I disturb the soil I break the roots at the top?

I've also been advice to add more soil on top. But my past veg gardening practice tells me that I shouldn't because I'm creating less oxygen by adding another layer of dirt on top?

Anyway, organic, folks, the white stuff is scaring the hell out of the Newb thread responders over there.

What's the scoop?
 
BeaverHuntr

BeaverHuntr

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prosperian said:
Yeah it does!

Hey, I'd like to share the replies I'm getting from the same posting on the Newb thread...here is the link.

Some are suggesting I till the soil top and add some air into it? I can see my roots right at the top of the soil. Seems to me if I disturb the soil I break the roots at the top?

I've also been advice to add more soil on top. But my past veg gardening practice tells me that I shouldn't because I'm creating less oxygen by adding another layer of dirt on top?

Anyway, organic, folks, the white stuff is scaring the hell out of the Newb thread responders over there.

What's the scoop?
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The scoop is :: The white fuzzy stuff is good!! It basically means your soil is alive its breaking down the organic stuff in your soil...I have the same shit on my super soil cooking in large trash bins the same exact white web..Please dont listen to the newbs in the newb thread.. Red Bird is 100% right in organics you want that stuff on your soil just not on your leaves or buds..Your plants are fine dude and the white stuff is a good thing to have on your soil when growing organically.
 
prosperian

prosperian

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Redbird1223 said:
also just my opinion, but those plants look small for those containers.
general rule is 1 gal = 1 month growth so 3 gal containers = 3 months growth 1 month veg/ 2 months flower
I only mention it because I have grown small plants in larger containers, and had trouble finishing on time because they kept feeding
I didn't have big enough roots on my little plants to eat all the nutes in the excess soil. I veg longer now, problem fixed.
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I wasn't on this forum yet to get real time advice on when to flip to flower.

I germinated on Dec 19th, veg through Jan 16th. I'm 30 days now on 12/12 flower cycle.

I could definitely use more veg time. It was my 1st grow and I thought I might have monsters poking out my closet or something! They were 15" inches before move to flower. Now they are 19" inches. Lesson learned.

On the containers I went right from peat pots to the 3 gal containers. First time I heard about gradual increases in container sizes and reported benefits. I'd like to research that some more.
 
prosperian

prosperian

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BeaverHuntr said:
The scoop is :: The white fuzzy stuff is good!! It basically means your soil is alive its breaking down the organic stuff in your soil...I have the same shit on my super soil cooking in large trash bins the same exact white web..Please dont listen to the newbs in the newb thread.. Red Bird is 100% right in organics you want that stuff on your soil just not on your leaves or buds..Your plants are fine dude and the white stuff is a good thing to have on your soil when growing organically.
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Thanks, make me feel better having you guys with experience in organics looking at my plants!
 
hotrodharley

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prosperian

prosperian

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hotrodharley said:
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/indoor-soil-cultivation/116090-how-oxygenate-aerate-plant-roots.html

Those eschewing cultivation of your soil tops basically know nothing about roots systems and plant oxygenation. Additionally I amputate roots regularly by sliding a knife directly through the root mass. A cut root tip regenerates 2 to 4 new tips, not just the 2 like when we top. Root amputation works and I will be back shortly to refute those sure to come along and decry it.
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Ah, interesting, about the knife procedure. Thanks Hotrod. You have been right on with your advice thus far. I can't wait for bmeat to find this thread too. :mrgreen:
 
BeaverHuntr

BeaverHuntr

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prosperian said:
Thanks, make me feel better having you guys with experience in organics looking at my plants!
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No problem man I'm new to the organics game too I will be coming up on my 2nd organic harvest in the next few days, I spent like 5 years growing with hydro and soil/organics is just the way to go.. Just remember when thinking about veg times and bigger flowering plants " The bigger the roots the bigger the fruits" , but dont forget space is limited when growing indoors.
 
prosperian

prosperian

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BeaverHuntr said:
No problem man I'm new to the organics game too I will be coming up on my 2nd organic harvest in the next few days, I spent like 5 years growing with hydro and soil/organics is just the way to go.. Just remember when thinking about veg times and bigger flowering plants " The bigger the roots the bigger the fruits" , but dont forget space is limited when growing indoors.
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I'm getting worn out in the Newb section...

bmeat said:
20% overflow holy shit!

scrape off top layer.

oxygenate with diluted h2o2 once a day for a week.

even when we sprayed our pool sand with bleach, it didnt kill the colonly. the water you use just feed the fungi, and it grows back. be persistent
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Nitro1990 said:
the white stuff is called bmeat it comes around when you least expect it ¬_¬

nah in all seriousness i would remove the 1st 2" of soil and replace it and then keep the air moving around your grow room and try to water them a little less as to stop the mold or fungi or what ever
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bigbull52 said:
cover the soil to keep it from getting light, it will be gone tomorrow.
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bmeat said:
no..oh my god.

scrape it off and apply h2o2 diluted once. 1/4 part h2o2, 3/4 water. if it comes back (which it will) do the week treatment.

its harmless in the soil, but you dont want it to spread to your plants.
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bigbull52 said:
cover the soil to keep it from getting light, it will be gone tomorrow.
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bmeat said:
no..oh my god.

scrape it off and apply h2o2 diluted once. 1/4 part h2o2, 3/4 water. if it comes back (which it will) do the week treatment.

its harmless in the soil, but you dont want it to spread to your plants.
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QUOTE=navyfighter04;8681992]NOOOOOOOO....you dont need that much H2O2...shut up bmeat....[/QUOTE]
 
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