What's the legal penalties in your area?

If you know the law in your area ie: growing anything over "blank" number of plants bumps you up into a felony and so on.

Please don't say things like "I think here it's anything over 28 grams is more of a crime." I want to know where, how many growing plants, what the penalties are and where you got your information.

I know this is not something ppl want to think about but I think this is something I would like to be informed about before starting. Really I just want to know about here in ontario canada but I think other people might want to know for there own area.

Sorry if I am out of line here.

Updated list:

U.S.A. California - Medical User License: 12 Sprouts (vegging cycle) plants OR 6 Mature Plants and 8 Oz Dried Bud.
Canada - If tried as an indictable offence, the defendant is liable to:
Cannabis: Maximum 7 years imprisonment.
Health Canada permits marijuana for approved patients who can demonstrate a medical need for it.

Here 99 plants & under 1st offence is 5 yrs probation/$5000 fine.Go 1 over?Then its $25,000 //25 years!!And each (seedling)is considered 1lb each! So 100 seedlings would get you 25 years & charged with 100lbs.Such BS!But thats the good ole'DEA for ya.I'm sure if your pockets are deep?Here in the south that speaks louder than the law.

And that is straight form the DEA guidelines.

For canada from what I understand it's:

"Schedule II"

• Cannabis and derivatives
  • Including Marijuana, cannabis resin, Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
  • Not including non-viable Cannabis seed, excepting its derivatives
  • Not including mature stalks without leaves, flowers, seeds or branches, and fibers derived from such stalks (Hemp)

"Production"
If tried as an indictable offence, the defendant is liable to:
Cannabis: Maximum 7 years imprisonment


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Drugs_and_Substances_Act

This "indictable offence" thing is getting me. After reading around I don't think it would be crazy to think that in ontario where I live if I was found to be growing a small amount ie: 2-5 plants that A: I could say it's personal and thus not an indictable offence and B: say I'm an addict and most likely have to attend drug treatment classes as time served. not 100% sure. Just the vibe I got from reading around. I would love your input.

California: State Minimums and Maximums As per CA Law.

Medical User License: 12 Sprouts (vegging cycle) plants OR 6 Mature Plants and 8 Oz Dried Bud. NO MORE DEA or FEDERAL RAIDS in CA or any other STATE that is Medically Legal (12 I believe)

In Canada, does this apply to MMJ patients with their cards? Are you telling me if I'm a caregiver growing in Canada I can still be arrested?

SNiPerXP said:

In Canada, does this apply to MMJ patients with their cards? Are you telling me if I'm a caregiver growing in Canada I can still be arrested?

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I think they can but wont.

Health Canada permits marijuana for approved patients who can demonstrate a medical need for it.

Alright, thanks. I just don't want to misunderstand the laws and go to jail for 7-14 years. I'd be tossed around like a salad.

i dont know the penalty's here but i know that myself being a mmj patient i am allowed the california state guidelines which is only a half pound of bud and 6 mature 12 immature plants but ive had friends tell me storys of police encounters where they had while over the legal limit and the cops didnt trip they just checked to make sure there was a mmj patient and i even heard that the recomendation was expired and my friend had like 30 girls ahaahaha

Here in FL if you are within 1000 feet of a school or park or church or anything public and caught cultivating even 1 plant then you go to jail for up to 15 years and pay a 10,000 dollar fine.... BULLSHIT!
anywhere else in FL, anything over 24 plants is a felony with the same charges until you get to like 100 plants and then it gets much much worse... Just look here:
NORML
Use the drop down on the left of the page at the top and pick your state.

here in S.F there is no limit for plants if you have a card so what is wise to do is not go over the fed limit of 99, in oakland its 78 plants and marin county is the basic 12/6 but just a little bit north in sonoma its 29, when i lived there my land lord called the cops on me because he saw my plants so the sheriff came over and counted them, i had 30 so one over but they didnt do anything about it

In TEXAS 2oz or less is class B misdemeanor, 2 - 4oz is class A misdemeanor, 180days to a year and 2k to 4k fines. 4oz-2k lbs is state jail felonly to felony to the second degree with 10k in fines, and anything more then 2,000lbs is a felony, 5-99years and 50,000 in fines. That is just possesion. Sale is pretty much the same, except to a minor, its a felony, 2-20 years, 10grand in fines. sale of 1/4oz and up is a felony also with 2k to 100k in fines.

* With no prior felony convictions, if convicted of possession of less than one pound of marijuana a judge must impose a sentence of probation with mandatory drug treatment. If no treatment center exists within the jurisdiction, the judge may waive the treatment requirement. They judge can also waive all fines.

*If it is a first-degree felony and defendant has been once before convicted of a felony, on conviction he shall be punished by imprisonment in the institutional division of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for life, or for any term of not more than 99 years or less than 15 years. In addition to imprisonment, an individual may be punished by a fine not to exceed $10,000.

In twenty US states, those who possess cannabis or other illegal drugs are legally required to purchase and affix state-issued stamps onto his or her contraband. The total cost of the tax is generally determined by the quantity of contraband possessed. Unlike typical criminal statutes prohibiting the possession and sale of controlled substances, drug tax stamp laws primarily assess financial penalties on the defendant for noncompliance. On occasion, criminal sanctions may also be imposed.

If somebody were to slaughter multiple people in the most grotesque way, you might share a cell with him if you have too much weed on your person......oh and rapists, and child molesters, and kidnappers, and people who commit aggravated assault.......horrible demented people mixed with people who enjoy a god made plant. wow.


SOURCE http://norml.org/

Everything is legal untill you get caught....

i found this article on google http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2005/05/pot.html


check the lone grower’s record and find previous convictions for cultivating—one in Quebec in 1993, for which he got a conditional discharge, the other in Barrie, Ont., in 2003, resulting in a nine-month jail term. Tonight’s haul is probably worth $845,000 on the street; the grower likely stood to score about $50,000 wholesale, less $20,000 in costs. With several crops a year, that’s about $200,000 tax-free cash for a year’s work. Like most of the product produced in large commercial grow ops, it probably would have ended up in the United States, where Canadian pot accounts for two percent of pot seized at borders. (Mexico is the No. 1 foreign supplier.)

I'm still trying to figure out what would happen in ontario if I was found growing 3-5 plants in my house in a very small setup.

oh ruiner your ruined it for me i was gonna say that same thing lol

OHIO:

Possession of less than 100 grams of marijuana is a citable offense only, with a fine of $100. Possession of 100 grams or more is punishable by a fine of up to $250. For possession of 200 grams or more, the penalty increases to a possible sentence of 6 months - one year in jail. Possession of 1,000 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. Any possession of less than 5,000 grams does not carry the presumption of prison, which leaves available the possibility of probation. Possession of 5,000 grams of marijuana or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. For any amount or 20,000 grams or more the penalty increases to a mandatory minimum sentence of eight years in prison.
Delivery of 20 grams or less, for no remuneration, is considered possession and is punished with a fine of $100. Sale or distribution of less than 200 grams carries a penalty of 6 - 18 months in jail. Sale or distribution of 200 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. Sale or distribution of 600 grams or greater carries a mandatory minimum sentence of six months and a possible 2 - 8 year sentence.
Sale to minors, sale within 1,000 feet of a school, sale within 100 feet of a juvenile, and previous felony drug convictions all increase the penalty for the sale or distribution of marijuana.
Possession of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 90 days in jail.
For all drug convictions, the offender's driver's license is also suspended for a period of 6 months - 5 years. This does not apply to minor misdemeanor violations for marijuana possession. Professional licenses are also suspended.

cfler said:

I'm still trying to figure out what would happen in ontario if I was found growing 3-5 plants in my house in a very small setup.

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i know but that explains that guy was busted in montreal and got off then 10 years later busted in ontario and did 9 months
who knows what he got the third time.
sounds like he was a comerical grower.
if he can get off first time with lots of plants im sure you can with a few.

welcome to louisiana...
*edit* srry for the crappy post, it didnt copy/paste right
Possession Any amount (first offense) misdemeanor 6 months $500 Any amount (second offense) felony 0-5 years $2,000 Any amount (third or subsequent offense) felony 0-20 years $5,000 Possession within 1,000 feet of school, church or public housing felony MMS* of 1/2 maximum penalty variable *Mandatory minimum sentence. Sale or Cultivation (or possession with intent to sale) Less than 60 lbs felony 5 - 30 years $50,000 60 - 2,000 lbs felony 5 - 30 years $50,000 - $100,000 2,000 - 10,000 lbs felony 10 - 40 years $100,000 - $400,000 More than 10,000 lbs felony 25 - 40 years $400,000 - $1,000,000 Sale to minor at least 3 years younger than the seller felony double penalty double penalty Sale within 1,000 feet of school, or specifed areas felony MMS* of 1/2 maximum penalty variable *Mandatory minimum sentence. Miscellaneous (paraphernalia, license suspensions, drug tax stamps, etc...) Paraphernalia possession or sale (first offense) misdemeanor 6 months $500 Paraphernalia possession or sale (second offense) misdemeanor 1 year $1,000 Paraphernalia possession or sale (third offense) misdemeanor or felony 5 years $5,000 Details

In Canada, if your grow op get's busted you simply plead guilty and usually just pay a fine of around $5,000-10,000. This is for a huge operation yielding pounds for resale. This is also if there aren't any guns found inside, or gangster type shit. If you are renting a house, and running a grow op the landlord may sue you however if there's damage from mold/ect. The provincial hydro company may sue you as well to collect stolen energy to run the grow. If you just have a small operation for mainly personal use nothing will happen besides them being confiscated. You can easily get an exemption to grow medical weed for a variety of conditions. A typical med marijuana license allows you to grow 35 plants, store up to 1575 grams, and possess up to 210 grams on your person.

Pleading guilty and cooperation is key, because since you save the court time and huge amounts of money by avoiding a trial the judge will definitely not send you to jail unless you've been caught numerous times before. Even still it's very unlikely any grow op owner will go to jail, as these things are usually set up by an associate buying the home, then other associates running the grow op. When the cops bust the place there's just the caretaker there who claims to know nothing and usually ends up with probation, but none of this is recommended unless you're in organized crime so just simply get a lawyer and plead no contest.

That said you will never be able to travel to the USA again, as the border guards will turn you away for any previous weed related conviction.

anonymousz said:

In Canada, if your grow op get's busted you simply plead guilty and usually just pay a fine of around $5,000-10,000. This is for a huge operation yielding pounds for resale. This is also if there aren't any guns found inside, or gangster type shit. If you are renting a house, and running a grow op the landlord may sue you however if there's damage from mold/ect. The provincial hydro company may sue you as well to collect stolen energy to run the grow. If you just have a small operation for mainly personal use nothing will happen besides them being confiscated. You can easily get an exemption to grow medical weed for a variety of conditions. A typical med marijuana license allows you to grow 35 plants, store up to 1575 grams, and possess up to 210 grams on your person.

Pleading guilty and cooperation is key, because since you save the court time and huge amounts of money by avoiding a trial the judge will definitely not send you to jail unless you've been caught numerous times before. Even still it's very unlikely any grow op owner will go to jail, as these things are usually set up by an associate buying the home, then other associates running the grow op. When the cops bust the place there's just the caretaker there who claims to know nothing and usually ends up with probation, but none of this is recommended unless you're in organized crime so just simply get a lawyer and plead no contest.

That said you will never be able to travel to the USA again, as the border guards will turn you away for any previous weed related conviction.

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I'm sorry but can you provide a link proving this is law their? I only ask because I really want this to be 100% true as I'm almost certain I'll be able to obtain my card up there.