whats the best cloning solution??

ddimebag said:
people keep saying how easy cloning is, but i've tried so many setups its not even funny anymore...i can't get cuttings to root even with an aeroponic propagator...
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Here is a video I found for a different method of cloning called air layering its pretty kool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1aYMvOyfKI
Also I wanted to ask anyone I just cut a clone from a plant and its still growing roots but now all the stems of the clone have turned red anyone know what the reason might be?
 
I dont know if this video will help you but this is how I do my clones and it works really well. I always get roots within 7 days


[video=youtube_share;_RHxBuYa9Es]http://youtu.be/_RHxBuYa9Es[/video]
 
Cloning is fairly easy to do, the tricky part is giving them the correct conditions after (fairly easy just gather good info). I didnt buy now dome nor nothing. I just use clonex, peet pellets, A big plastic bowl and plastic film wrap,
 
I like using willow water for my rooting hormone. It's natural, it's free, it's has the same hormones as any of those other cloning agents and it's been proven to work for 100's of years now.
 
bamfrivet said:
I like using willow water for my rooting hormone. It's natural, it's free, it's has the same hormones as any of those other cloning agents and it's been proven to work for 100's of years now.
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it doesnt have the all the hormones willow water will contain IBA but not NAA. NAA is man made and works great in the proper ratio to IBA in thae water.
 
defonest said:
hey guys wanna start cloning but i want to know what you guys think is the best cloning formula. gel,powder, liquid.what brand is the best and what were your experiences and results of your preffered rooting formula. thanks guys!:leaf:
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Water is best
 
Good morning and Happy Holidays,
Lots of good info here. I'm an old time grower and have seen trends come and go over the years. Like Missnu suggested, Rootone powder works good and is an old standby. With all cloning powders and gels, never stick a stem into the main bottle. You then contaminate it for future use. More critical with gels which can become infected. Pour some out to your work space and then discard what you don't use.

I used willow water for awhile when I lived in a place with a large weeping willow in front yard. Works super and I used it liberally. Must be stored in fridge so it doesn't grow unwanted stuff.

The deal with not feeding Mother plant before cutting is useful info for hard to clone strains. I got this info from a Cervantes article and it has worked for me. The idea is this: If you withhold feedings to the Mother plant a week before cutting, the plant can't make chlorophyll (due to N and Mg shortage). So because of that, sugar stacks up in the leaf, and when you take a cutting at that point...it will have maximum stored sugars and will be able to put good energy into root production and staying alive. Make sense?

It works better in hydro Mothers but I suppose soil flushing a week in advance would do the job. Never did it that way.
Cheers all,
JD
 
I use rockwool, clonex gel, clonex solution with superthrive ph'd to 5.6. I have had the best success with this as opposed to hormex, olivias, and dip n grow (which works almost as well). My chem d roots in 7 days, but it is a super hardy vigorous plant - I have actually cloned it just by sticking a cutting into coco with nothing added, I just kept the coco wet with very light nute solution and they rooted quickly...Oh yeah! I even rooted one by simply dipping it in clonex gel then placing it into a cup of distilled water with 1 ml of clonex solution. I am not exaggerating - it formed roots, I transplanted, and it became a healthy plant. On the other hand, tahoe og takes quite sometime to root no matter what I use. Tahoe is, in my opinion, one of the toughest, if not the toughest, plant to clone. At least out of the strains I have tried cloning. It is some of the most amazing bud though :)
 
JohnDee said:
Good morning and Happy Holidays,
The deal with not feeding Mother plant before cutting is useful info for hard to clone strains. I got this info from a Cervantes article and it has worked for me. The idea is this: If you withhold feedings to the Mother plant a week before cutting, the plant can't make chlorophyll (due to N and Mg shortage). So because of that, sugar stacks up in the leaf, and when you take a cutting at that point...it will have maximum stored sugars and will be able to put good energy into root production and staying alive. Make sense?

It works better in hydro Mothers but I suppose soil flushing a week in advance would do the job. Never did it that way.
Cheers all,
JD
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Have you ever done it? If so, wasn't the Mother wilted? I grow in Sunshine Mix #4. The plants don't get nutrients unless I give it to them. If I were to water without nutrients added, would that work? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the idea of a stressed plant, giving a healthy cutting. To me, stressed mom = stressed cutting, and THAT would make for difficult cloning.
 
KenR asked...
"Have you ever done it?"
As a routine, I withheld feedings for the week before cloning. I had 4 Bonzaied clone Mommas that I took 30 cuttings from every 60 days. Not cloning as much now.

"If so, wasn't the Mother wilted?"
Absolutely not Ken, I said withhold feedings meaning nutrients. They still got water as needed. Wilting is from low turgor pressure due to lack of water.

"I grow in Sunshine Mix #4. The plants don't get nutrients unless I give it to them. If I were to water without nutrients added, would that work?"
Yes, that would work great.


As far as being a "stressed" plant...that's just not the case. If you take a healthy green plant and hold nutrients for a week, that isn't even long enough to cause any yellowing. It's just a minor manipulation of plant processes to allow sugar to build up a in the leaves. This is a technique for use with hard-to-clone strains. And like I said in my initial post...I didn't invent this technique.
JD
 
It may be the strain you trying to clone. Some just don't root while others will root if you leave it lay on the ground where its moist.
ddimebag said:
people keep saying how easy cloning is, but i've tried so many setups its not even funny anymore...i can't get cuttings to root even with an aeroponic propagator...
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I use the most generic off the shelve cloning powder from my local garden store ($4.99), not because I'm cheap, but it has always worked. I place my clones in a large styro foam cooler
covered with cling wrap. Lightly spray them 3 or 4 times a day. Ghetto, yes, does it work, yes, not bragging but I've never lost a clone.
 
From their blurb...
"Exacting N-P-K ratios are calibrated to meet the nutritional requirements of the mother plant, without excess nitrates."

Sp apparently this product takes the low N issue into consideration, Depending on how often you feed the clone Momma...you could still time things so that there isn't a feeding right before cutting clones. may as well opt for every advantage...
JD
 
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