Silky T
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Bushed and Baked babes?Bushed and Baked babes . . . . .I'm checkin out . . . .n night
HolllllllAH . . . . if you have woesx
What The Hell Is Wrong With My Plants?
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Silky T
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How do you use molasses? I've heard ppl talk about it a lot but I've never used it. How do I use it? What's the ratio? Any help will be most appreciated. My friend redlazer might need the same thing.
My molasses says it's "unsulphered". what does that mean?
My molasses says it's "unsulphered". what does that mean?
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Semper.Fi
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Hey all . . . .
Oooo yeah Molasses, NECTAR . . . . . the biology in the soil love it.
There is a relationship between bacteria and various fungi and the root system of our plants. The plant secretes sugars and n various other things to feed the bacteria and the fungi, if we add molasses, which contains lovely natural carbs n sugars, the plants do not have to release so much to feed the beneficials . . . .there fore more sugar is available for the plant to divert to budding sites. The extra food for the beneficials turn them in a pack of monsters, really speeding up root zone action
I use molasses once a week at 1tsp per gallon. I also use molasses to brew a mix of beneficials which I feed every week too, so the plants have to lots of molasses
Unsulphured, the sulphur has been removed, better for the biology
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Oooo yeah Molasses, NECTAR . . . . . the biology in the soil love it.
There is a relationship between bacteria and various fungi and the root system of our plants. The plant secretes sugars and n various other things to feed the bacteria and the fungi, if we add molasses, which contains lovely natural carbs n sugars, the plants do not have to release so much to feed the beneficials . . . .there fore more sugar is available for the plant to divert to budding sites. The extra food for the beneficials turn them in a pack of monsters, really speeding up root zone action
I use molasses once a week at 1tsp per gallon. I also use molasses to brew a mix of beneficials which I feed every week too, so the plants have to lots of molasses
Unsulphured, the sulphur has been removed, better for the biology
~_
Semper.Fi
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Silky T
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Hey all . . . .
Oooo yeah Molasses, NECTAR . . . . . the biology in the soil love it.
There is a relationship between bacteria and various fungi and the root system of our plants. The plant secretes sugars and n various other things to feed the bacteria and the fungi, if we add molasses, which contains lovely natural carbs n sugars, the plants do not have to release so much to feed the beneficials . . . .there fore more sugar is available for the plant to divert to budding sites. The extra food for the beneficials turn them in a pack of monsters, really speeding up root zone action
I use molasses once a week at 1tsp per gallon. I also use molasses to brew a mix of beneficials which I feed every week too, so the plants have to lots of molasses
Unsulphured, the sulphur has been removed, better for the biology
Well, good afternoon!
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Silky T
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Hey all . . . .
Oooo yeah Molasses, NECTAR . . . . . the biology in the soil love it.
There is a relationship between bacteria and various fungi and the root system of our plants. The plant secretes sugars and n various other things to feed the bacteria and the fungi, if we add molasses, which contains lovely natural carbs n sugars, the plants do not have to release so much to feed the beneficials . . . .there fore more sugar is available for the plant to divert to budding sites. The extra food for the beneficials turn them in a pack of monsters, really speeding up root zone action
I use molasses once a week at 1tsp per gallon. I also use molasses to brew a mix of beneficials which I feed every week too, so the plants have to lots of molasses
Unsulphured, the sulphur has been removed, better for the biology
I added a tablespoon of my unsulfured to my nute mixture. My left hand is fighting with my right hand that wants to go ahead and feed them even tho I'm in the two-day, no feed mode from last night's rinse. I read that I can also use it as a foliar spray. Won't that make my plants sticky?
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Silky T
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That's not a term we use around here so I missed it. Sorry, I was just called to breakfast. Should we leave this girl to her thread? She didn't seem to mind and actually said it was good information. I wish she would chime in so I don't feel so guilty.That was late last night . . . . .
Bushed = Tired
Baked = Stoned
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I have a question that I guess I should have asked a long time ago. Do I put a bottom on my planter to catch the runoff and let the plant eventually absorb it or once it quits running out the bottom, take the plastic catcher away?
Silky T
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Looks like boron deficiency.
Semper.Fi
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Leave the saucer under the p[ot, collect measure and dump run off, don't let the run off get taken back into the roots, you'll have a salt build up in no time . . . .
Semper.Fi
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Don't water, flush with three times the pot volume, you'll need 1/4 to 1/2 strength solution PHd to 6.6 . .. .
Yes they need nutrients, defo . . . . but only once we have stabilized the PH of the soil . . . .a standard time for most strains is 7 to 9 weeks flowering, so you have at least 2 weeks of optimal feeding to do . . . . .
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Yes they need nutrients, defo . . . . but only once we have stabilized the PH of the soil . . . .a standard time for most strains is 7 to 9 weeks flowering, so you have at least 2 weeks of optimal feeding to do . . . . .
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh very interesting!
Oh, I see, I see! This is very helpful news.
I will water them again tomorrow. 6.5.
What do you think about feeding? Or is it too late? They've been flowering for over a month now - first tiny buds showed at 5/9 (now that I've checked my photos).
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Oh, I missed this last night.
So you're saying I need to rinse out /each plant/ with quarter strength nutes at 6.6pH, at 10 gallons per plant?!
Where the hell am I gonna get all that water... I guess the tub, eh?
And damn, I really underestimated their flowering time.
I wonder if they aren't getting enough light or air, too? I do have a couple fans in there.
Silky T
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Well, duh, that makes sense. Thanks! Had to leave... Dr. Pepper run.Leave the saucer under the p[ot, collect measure and dump run off, don't let the run off get taken back into the roots, you'll have a salt build up in no time . . . .
Semper.Fi
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Yup you got it, take em to the tub and rinse em through with plenty. . . .
Do you have a fan exhausting old stale air from the room, pulling fresh air in??
What bulb is above them right now??
Do you have a fan exhausting old stale air from the room, pulling fresh air in??
What bulb is above them right now??
Semper.Fi
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Oh shit, I think I'm still misunderstanding:
So, you want me to fill the tub with water and nutes, PHed to 6.6, and just leave them in there for a while (like 30 mins)? I didn't read the whole rest of the thread - I'm sorry
Is that how I should feed them from now on?
It would be easier to get the feeding right, but is a lot more work as those are big, heavy bags....
Hmm. I'll do the tub thing on occasion for sure, but could I just feed them normally (watering through the top) most of the time?
I've also been considering creating a modular containment system which will let me flood the area that the plants are sitting in. Would that be best?
My Mum's an outside horticulturalist - she hates all this pHing and stuff. I guess I shouldn't have been listening to her as much as I thought :/
Semper.Fi
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We need to get plenty of the correct PH'd weak feed through the soil asap . . . . three times the water to soil.
How ever you do it, there will be a load of run off, that needs collecting and testing for PH and EC.
If I ever need to do this, my wooden shower floor thing fits over my tub perfectly, so I put the plant on the slatted wooden thing and pour away, collecting the run off in the bath for testing when I'm finished . . . .
When things go wrong, effort is required my lovely
How ever you do it, there will be a load of run off, that needs collecting and testing for PH and EC.
If I ever need to do this, my wooden shower floor thing fits over my tub perfectly, so I put the plant on the slatted wooden thing and pour away, collecting the run off in the bath for testing when I'm finished . . . .
When things go wrong, effort is required my lovely
~_Oh shit, I think I'm still misunderstanding:
So, you want me to fill the tub with water and nutes, PHed to 6.6, and just leave them in there for a while (like 30 mins)? I didn't read the whole rest of the thread - I'm sorry
Is that how I should feed them from now on?
It would be easier to get the feeding right, but is a lot more work as those are big, heavy bags....
Hmm. I'll do the tub thing on occasion for sure, but could I just feed them normally (watering through the top) most of the time?
I've also been considering creating a modular containment system which will let me flood the area that the plants are sitting in. Would that be best?
My Mum's an outside horticulturalist - she hates all this pHing and stuff. I guess I shouldn't have been listening to her as much as I thought :/
Semper.Fi
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An EC meter allows you to control the strength of feeds . . . .and also to test to see what comkes out of the bottom, we can then judge more acurately what they are consuming . . . and can also tell if a root ball is too hot
H&M do a good well priced line. Blue Lab better but with it more $
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H&M do a good well priced line. Blue Lab better but with it more $
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Great! I'll check that out. Man, money is so tight these days.... sigh.
So, I just checked the pH of the water in the tub - I started it at 6.5, and it is now at 6.7 45 minutes later.
I'm gonna drain it, spray them for spider mites (jesusfuckingspidermitesfuck) with iso and then put them back in the closet.
And I ran out of fertilizer. Do you think you could also recommend some fert for me? (bonus points for canadian availability
So, I just checked the pH of the water in the tub - I started it at 6.5, and it is now at 6.7 45 minutes later.
I'm gonna drain it, spray them for spider mites (jesusfuckingspidermitesfuck) with iso and then put them back in the closet.
And I ran out of fertilizer. Do you think you could also recommend some fert for me? (bonus points for canadian availability
Semper.Fi
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Hello RL
I love the General Hydroponics Three Part called the Flora Series. They have a very effective 1 part formula for grow and bloom called Flora Nova too.
Now I'm gonna get shouted at; if you want simplicity, try Advanced Nutrients (Canadian) Sensi Bloom 2 part, or Connoisseur 2 part . . . .don't get sucked into their entire line up though . . . . . it has, supposedly, PH and EC perfect technology, meaning it will buffer itself and be available when needed, without burning or overferting . . . . . I have dabbled in their Sensi Grow for a few weeks, it was darrrrnnnn good, I gotta say. I use their Big Bud, Nirvana and B52 in most of my grows, B52 is brilliant imho, a great vitamin complex !
Couple of pointers for you there; if things are tight, you'll probably find General Hydro to be slightly better priced.
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I love the General Hydroponics Three Part called the Flora Series. They have a very effective 1 part formula for grow and bloom called Flora Nova too.
Now I'm gonna get shouted at; if you want simplicity, try Advanced Nutrients (Canadian) Sensi Bloom 2 part, or Connoisseur 2 part . . . .don't get sucked into their entire line up though . . . . . it has, supposedly, PH and EC perfect technology, meaning it will buffer itself and be available when needed, without burning or overferting . . . . . I have dabbled in their Sensi Grow for a few weeks, it was darrrrnnnn good, I gotta say. I use their Big Bud, Nirvana and B52 in most of my grows, B52 is brilliant imho, a great vitamin complex !
Couple of pointers for you there; if things are tight, you'll probably find General Hydro to be slightly better priced.
Great! I'll check that out. Man, money is so tight these days.... sigh.
So, I just checked the pH of the water in the tub - I started it at 6.5, and it is now at 6.7 45 minutes later.
I'm gonna drain it, spray them for spider mites (jesusfuckingspidermitesfuck) with iso and then put them back in the closet.
And I ran out of fertilizer. Do you think you could also recommend some fert for me? (bonus points for canadian availability
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