What the hell is wrong with her?

Lambo...

Member
I had one of these exact same traits with an unknown strain that I got sent from some seed banks as a freebie, you know when you spent over ex amount of £££'s etc. It didn't quite have the leaf issue you talk about but them swollen stems on the buds were like brocolli. I had no idea what it was and didn't have another to compare it to, I just thought it was lack of light so I shifted it right under the 600 from been at the back, put it on a bucket as it was about 16" shorter than any of the other 5 (NL x BB) I think and 1 week later the stems were covered in calxy's and ginger hairs! We thought it was an Orange Bud x or something but it were a mega strong smoke and produced about 3.5 ounce dry, I wish I'd have kept one of them now. I've got a snap of it somewhere...
 

Ck1

Member
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I know what it is, I posted a link to it. It's crap with a buzz word that appeals to the gullible pot growing newbie - "kind". Well, it's not "kind" to your plants. :)

You can't follow any one's instructions regarding application. No two gardens are the same. Their instructions & feed charts are only designed to sell products. They know who they're selling to don't know any better.
note the use of the word usually. I don't order nutes online. I live in a full prohibition state so I have nothing delivered to me and especially not my location. I rely on the local store and what they have available. Again, not a newbie, it was comparably priced to all other choices and was actually less complex. When I say I follow the instructions I mean I typically mix the amount of nutrients per liter of water listed on the chart, but of course I realize that no two gardens or even plants are the same and so I make adjustments. I have a bs in botany so I know plenty about plant nutrition. I love these plants and what I do. U seem to be under the impression that I fall into the category of someone who doesn't care about cannabis and just wants to make money or something. I'm not. Ur the one that said "kind" tells u nothing. I missed the link, excuse me, was trying to clarify. I'm not a newb or uninformed - rather it seems to me that ur an elitist that wants to give me a hard time because u think u know more than me. Don't take it so personal when someone disagrees with u or uses a product U've deemed for use by people who aren't "serious" enough. I may not be a newb, but I can tell u this is the kind of thing that prevents newbies from asking more questions on riu. U ask a question and end up getting criticized and made to feel as though ur not a "real" grower. Kind works just fine, and so do a thousand other things. Go smoke that joint bro.
 

nomofatum

Well-Known Member
There's no such thing as a newb friendly nute when it comes to this industry. They're gonna trip you up until you end up on a forum crying "why do my leaves curl, do they need epsom salts?" :)

This is newb friendly food, should be used from start to finish, very high quality and high performance (strong) with a great bang to the buck that can't be matched by any vendor. http://www.amazon.com/77900-Performance-Fertilizer-25-5-15-25-Pound/dp/B008JSIKCU/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_1
That brand is what I was talking about for commercial nutes. The one you link to has a large amount of urea in it so I wouldn't expect it to be recommended for hydro or coco, but maybe soil. There are two other versions that would be better for hydro from Jacks/JR Peters.
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
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note the use of the word usually. I don't order nutes online. I live in a full prohibition state so I have nothing delivered to me and especially not my location. I rely on the local store and what they have available. Again, not a newbie, it was comparably priced to all other choices and was actually less complex. When I say I follow the instructions I mean I typically mix the amount of nutrients per liter of water listed on the chart, but of course I realize that no two gardens or even plants are the same and so I make adjustments. I have a bs in botany so I know plenty about plant nutrition. I love these plants and what I do. U seem to be under the impression that I fall into the category of someone who doesn't care about cannabis and just wants to make money or something. I'm not. Ur the one that said "kind" tells u nothing. I missed the link, excuse me, was trying to clarify. I'm not a newb or uninformed - rather it seems to me that ur an elitist that wants to give me a hard time because u think u know more than me. Don't take it so personal when someone disagrees with u or uses a product U've deemed for use by people who aren't "serious" enough. I may not be a newb, but I can tell u this is the kind of thing that prevents newbies from asking more questions on riu. U ask a question and end up getting criticized and made to feel as though ur not a "real" grower. Kind works just fine, and so do a thousand other things. Go smoke that joint bro.
When you make this statement of "Not that low in N." and you have an imbalance whereby P is much higher than N......

nuff said
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
That brand is what I was talking about for commercial nutes. The one you link to has a large amount of urea in it so I wouldn't expect it to be recommended for hydro or coco, but maybe soil. There are two other versions that would be better for hydro from Jacks/JR Peters.
I think that food would be well suited for coco. I noticed that the Amazon seller scanned the 20-20-20, not the 25-5-15. The latter is quite high in nitrates, fairly low in ammonicals. What the source of the ammonical N is I don't know. It's either something like urea or ammonium sulfate or nitrate. Can't find the info. Here's the NPK values - http://www.jrpeters.com/Products/Jack-s-Professional/Jack-s-Pro/General-Purpose-Formulas/25-5-15-High-Performance.html
 

grasscropper

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I think that food would be well suited for coco. I noticed that the Amazon seller scanned the 20-20-20, not the 25-5-15. The latter is quite high in nitrates, fairly low in ammonicals. What the source of the ammonical N is I don't know. It's either something like urea or ammonium sulfate or nitrate. Can't find the info. Here's the NPK values - http://www.jrpeters.com/Products/Jack-s-Professional/Jack-s-Pro/General-Purpose-Formulas/25-5-15-High-Performance.html
I use the Jacks 20-20-20 for veg however during flower I find the N might be a bit too high. Any input?
 
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