What the fuck

is this?
Hypothetically speaking, lets say I'm up in the North, next to Ohio and kissing Canada.
My plants were doing great, then, something started to eat chunks out of it. After that stopped, this happened...



it appeared, a couple days ago to be little lite specs of leaf missing and it was really subtle, so I didn't think much of it. The same day, when I saw it, I was spraying them down with Rx Rose, the organic insect killer because of the chunks missing. Now, I come back, two days letter and 3 of them have been hit badly but the stem and some of the leaves are still great. The plant seems to just be eaten, not so much hurt from growing. When I first saw it, there were two yellow and black bugs on them but I'm not sure they were the culprits. Anyone else been attacked by them same thing with some remedies?

Not the same thing, but close. There are SO many bugs that munch on these plants, plus it all depends on where you live. You just never know, so I think I'm going to begin a little prophylactic pesticide treatments with tobacco tea. So far it seems to work very well, but it helps to have a wee bit of (non anti-bacterial/anti-microbial) soap in there.

10grams of loose tobacco/liter of very hot water, let it steep overnight. Strain it and either use it straight or you can dilute it up to 5x. I've been using it straight, on seedlings as well. The soap also makes it not smell so much like a f'ing ashtray.
(I got American Spirit organic tobacco, but I believe that Bali Shag is better, and I've got my husband rolling his own ciggies, he says he's smoking less, and I know he's coughing a lot less, significantly less.)

Malathion may be longer lasting if it doesn't rain, and it's safe to use on fruits and vegetables. Any pyrethrum-based pesticide is likely going to be organic and safe for you as well.

If you're not organic, Carabaryl is a good general spectrum insecticide. Works on a significant number of beasties- think it's sold under the trade name Sevin in spray and powder form.

hey seamaiden, how do you apply that solution to your plant? do you spray each leaf individually till it drips or do you just try and get a little here and there?

The tobacco tea is strained and put into a hand pressure sprayer (the kind you pump with air to pressurize it). Then, I make sure to soak all the way around trying my best to get under the leaves as well as on top, and trying to get ALL the leaves and stalks. I've discovered that some of the caterpillars/grubs roll up and fall off the moment they feel movement (I assume it's a defense from predators), and they blend it perfectly with the soil, so I spray the surface of the soil lightly as well. I set it at a fine mist most of the time, but I was having real problems and one day I got superpissed and set it so it would spray bigger drops. The intention was the knock the little fuckers off. I have NO idea if it worked or not, but it made me feel better.

Oh yeah, I've used malathion twice, and neem oil more times than I can count (which is why I finally got the malathion and the tobacco), and I've otherwise been using the tobacco. Just tonight I found a spot on our oak tree where the leaves are ALL kinda fucked up from leafminers, and other leaves are rolled into tubes with webbing. So, I know the pests are still here, and I like to think that what I'm doing is working to protect my garden.