What should I do? Im worried!

Day 37 from seed on my short riders and the leaves have just been getting worse and worse, none of fallenn off yet though. Should I be worried? will this affect my buds/bud growth? What can I do to fix it?

Only nutes i've ever fed them is light doses of tiger bloom.

thanks!

i believe somebody just told me that your leaves will do that if theres too much nitrogen in soil when you cut to 12/12 and feed bloom nutes. your buds are pulling all the nutes from leaves and killing them. well not killing but feeding from. i was told no worries. hope they are ok, they look nice. good job closet grower.

Should I add Grow Big??

Looks to me like they need some elements and nitrogen. Get some Cal-max/mag and give them 1/2 what they say. You will see the difference in 5 days.
http://www.planetnatural.com/site/cal-mag.html

Root bound can produce the same effects. Tip the plant upside down, hold your hand to keep it from falling out. Open your hand face up put the stock in between fingers and gently shake till it slides out anout 1/2 way. Is it root bound? if so move to larger pot and leaves will be OK. Not the problem?

My eyes tell me Cal-mag will do the trick.

peace
FLUSH with PH 6.0 and 10% food till you get lots of run off two to three times the pot size. This will fix any soil issues, if it

Yes, I agree. Cal-mag. Or of you have calicum in your water (your dishes and glasses have a white film) then use one teaspoon of epsom salts per gallon of water to feed with. that will get the mag in there.

If they are root bound, will it affect the bud growth? Because I think they probably are rootbound, they've been in these 3 gal containers their whole life.

Yep, agreed, it's magnesium. It's indicated by the yellowing between the veins. If it were nitrogen, it would be an even yellowing, not just the veins and the edges.

Also, they aren't rootbound. I grow 4" plants in 3 gallon pots, and they don't get rootbound, so those have quite a way to go. They don't get the big though, so no worries. They won't outgrow that sized pot.

I don't agree with the Magnesium being the issue, If you read the info below you will see why, but as I said above, if a pot plant is root bound that's what happens it's no big deal to put in a bigger pot. If root bound your plant will not reach it's potential. Yield will be down also.

Your best bet is to treat with Cal-mag as above. There are lots of minerals that will produce similar problems. Copper, Molybdenum, Boron to name a few another thing you should try is adding molasses (get it at the grocery store 3$) Mix at a rate of 2 table spoons per gallon. Lots of good stuff in there.

Benefits...

Molasses increases the amount of carbon into soil (C:N ratio) and promotes the growth of beneficial soil microorganisms.

It is an effective soluble foliar carbohydrate.

Improves the structural stability of soils by decreasing dispersion and/or slaking.

Improves soil moisture retention.

The addition of molasses to high N applications ameliorates the phytotoxic effect of discrete N application.

Source of potassium, sulphur and trace elements.

Buffers phytotoxic effects of pesticides, herbicides and mineral oil applications.

Stimulates benefi cial microbial activity by providing an excellent food source.

Enhanced microbial activity improves availability of nutrients in the soil and reduces the amount of fertilizer required.




Here is more on Magnesium

Manganese (Mn) Micronutrient and Immobile Element


Manganese Helps enzymes break down for chlorophyll and photosynthesis production, as well as it works with plant enzymes to reduce nitrates before producing proteins.

Having plants that are deficient in manganese can turn the young leaves into spotted (mottled) yellow and or brown areas on young leaves. Dead (Necrotic) yellow spots form on top leaves, while the lower older leaves will or may have gray specks and or spots. Symptoms can include yellowing of leaves while the leaf veins can stay green. Can also produce a chequered effect. As the plant gets newer growths the plant will seem to grow away from the problem, that’s why the younger leaves may be unaffected. On the top of the leaves, brown spots can appear. While the severe areas of the leaves turn brown and wither. Parts Affected by a Manganese deficiency are: Young leaves.


Too much Manganese in the soil will cause an iron deficiency. The blotchy leaf tissue is caused by not enough chlorophyll synthesis. Your plants will seem to have very weak vigor caused by the excessive amount of manganese.

Problems with Manganese being locked out by PH troubles

Soil ph of over 6.5, High iron soils, Low nitrogen Soils, Dry weather
and compacted soil.


Soil

Manganese gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 2.0-5.0
Manganese is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 5.5-6.5 (Wouldn’t recommend having a soil ph of over 7.0 in soil) anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Manganese Deficiency.

Peace

^I agree with the rootbound info. BUT, there's no way possible, that those tiny plants are anywhere close to being rootbound. That's what I was saying.

I agree. When the plant is three times the height of the pot is usually when it happens.

I was pointing out what the causes could be and to eliminate root bound by looking, how hard is that? If it's OK than must be the other possibility.

Peace