what makes the best mother plant?seed or clone

is it better to grow a seed into a mother plant or take a clone from a seedling and let the clone grow into a mother plant?

Seed...........

I don't see how that would make any difference. I started my setup with 2 clones that were given to me and I have had great success. I have grown a few from bag seed so I could get the experience and saw no difference between the two. In the end I think it comes down to genetics. If you have good genetics a clone mother is just as good as from seed. That is all I ever use now.

A strong & healthy plant makes the best mother

clone, no guessing the sex. hate to grow a seed for 2 months only to find out its a daddy.

If you want to know what makes the best mother plant, it is a seed.... Ask any professional grower and they will tell you the same thing..... You do not want to be cloning from clones that have been cloned.... it weakens the genetics over time.... Yes it takes longer to grow a seed up to a mother and yes there is the chance that a seed will be a male, but that wasn't the question at all........... My response is not my opinion, it's factual truth

Disregaurd the people like the one above. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. A lot of professional growers actually think that seeds can be a bad idea because they need to go through a few generations of clippings to make the genetically strong enough to reach their full potential. Clones are already at this state when you recieve them.

On top of that if you plant form seed you will have to select a mom. A clone is proven everyone has the same thing and they know what to expect. You could have a haze and afgan cross and the seed come out looking like an Afghan but take 74 days to finish. You would never know this till you do it.

I also don't think seeds are genetically stronger link I said befoe seeds need to be grown out for a while to reach their maturity. Like grow the seeds the take cuts, the take cuts of the cuts, then cuts of the cuts and they will be 'mature'.

If you wanted to make your 'own' weed start from seed. It will be different than other peoples. Sees usually lean from one parents traits all the way to the others and have everything in between. So keep that in mind too,.

seed....enough said

Thank you!!!!!!!!! That guy(edux10) with all the mumbo jumbo was missing the point like most of the rest of the respondents up above... A seed will make the best mother.... PERIOD!

Seeds will not necessarily make the best mother... I honestly think it's a mute point, but I started with seeds that I purchased from a reputable seed company. Among the ten seeds I germinated four of them turned out to be heavier yielders than the other. Of those four two of them were ridiculously fast paced growers which really wasn't ideal for me growing indoors hydroponically. So out of the 10 seeds I initially started with two of them proved to be amazing in both yield, height, and quality. Early on I took 2 cuttings from each of the 10 plants. I threw out all of the cuttings except for the ones that came off of those two plants. Cuttings allow you to keep a plants genetics going for GENERATIONS! With all that said I've never had a problem with my mother plants and at about 4 or so passings I just replace the mother with a new cutting... Quality will not, can not ever diminish. I don't understand what everyone is talking about, but if you are taking cuttings from an already established plant then cuttings are by far superior. Cuttings cut out the entire germination time and are guaranteed female every time. I can not believe you have gotten some of the responses you have. I hope this information helps. Take care and good luck!

for me it's clone's

Clones don't lose their genetic traits, if they did 1/2 of the strains produced today would not exist.

Wow, you guys are comedy.... The question was, what makes a better mother, a seed or a clone...... No matter what, that plant all of you want to take your clones off to make the mother, whatever seed that came from, would have made the best mother.... Now I can't believe some of the responses you have gotten... This is growing basics.......

LOSTCOASTLOCAL said:

Wow, you guys are comedy.... The question was, what makes a better mother, a seed or a clone...... No matter what, that plant all of you want to take your clones off to make the mother, whatever seed that came from, would have made the best mother.... Now I can't believe some of the responses you have gotten... This is growing basics.......

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Dude... Did you even read my response? Anybody who grows anything knows that it starts from a seed. You aren't teaching anybody anything new in saying that. Yes that is the basics of growing, but every "seed" is different. Ideally you will grow out a handful of seeds wait until they are big enough to take cuttings from. Once you take your two - three cuttings, you can take the original and flower it. This will allow you to determine which of the plants are males and which ones grow to be the healthiest. As you determine the sex you can kill off the males and any cuttings you have taken from it. Once you find the plant that is the best, (the chosen plant) you can grow your new mothers from those clones you took early on, with NO GENETIC DETERIORATION what-so-ever. So yea you can grow out a mother from a seed, but you're not necessaraly going to see the best you could have, you're delaying your grow time by having to germinate a new mother every time, and you're running the risk of doing all that work only to find out the plant was male. Regardless, if you find a great plant (that was started from a seed) that produces an amazing product... eventually you will need to replace the mother anyway if you want to keep the genetics going right? What is the only way to keep a plants genetics going????? BY CLONING THE BITCH! I put that in as elementary terms as I could. I'm sure the original poster understood what I was trying to say in the first post I wrote, but obviously some people didn't. Take care and again, I hope this helped.

It's not about how much time it takes to grow out a seed man, it's WHAT MAKES THE BEST MOTHER... ANd taking clones from a plant that was grown from seed, is best. It's not a debate, that is just the bottom line.... ANyone after this that wants to debate t or whatever is just waisting time....I was born and raised in Humboldt, for those of you that are thinking i dont know what I am talkin about and I GUARNTEE I KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT GROWING HERB than 99% of the people on here.... SO you can read this and think I am a dick or opinionated, or you can read it and know you are getting the truth... I really don't care after that. Just wasn't interested in conceiding to the people on here that think they know what they are talking about, but didn't even understand the question in the first place..... NO MATTER WHAT PLANT YOU WANT TO TAKE A CLONE FROM TO MAKE YOUR MOTHER>>>>>>> THE SEED IT CAME FROM WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER MOTHER>>> TRY AND COMPREHEND THAT STONERS.>>>>> NOT THAT HARD

LOSTCOASTLOCAL said:

It's not about how much time it takes to grow out a seed man, it's WHAT MAKES THE BEST MOTHER... ANd taking clones from a plant that was grown from seed, is best. It's not a debate, that is just the bottom line.... ANyone after this that wants to debate t or whatever is just waisting time....I was born and raised in Humboldt, for those of you that are thinking i dont know what I am talkin about and I GUARNTEE I KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT GROWING HERB than 99% of the people on here.... SO you can read this and think I am a dick or opinionated, or you can read it and know you are getting the truth... I really don't care after that. Just wasn't interested in conceiding to the people on here that think they know what they are talking about, but didn't even understand the question in the first place..... NO MATTER WHAT PLANT YOU WANT TO TAKE A CLONE FROM TO MAKE YOUR MOTHER>>>>>>> THE SEED IT CAME FROM WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER MOTHER>>> TRY AND COMPREHEND THAT STONERS.>>>>> NOT THAT HARD

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I shouldn't even give you the attention your so pathetically yearning for, but I'm going to anyway because your temper tantrum amuses me. One more time for the slow kid in the back... A clone taken from a plant grown from a seed, would be exactly the same as a clone taken from a previous clone of the initial plant. Here, I will even give you a diagram... A ---> B ---> C (simple) A is your mother plant grown from a seed. B is a clone taken from A. Now say you grow B to become your new mother plant. Now you take a cutting from B and get C as your new clone. Your new clone "C" is 100% genetically the same as "A" was. I don't understand how you can't understand. That is why they call it a clone man.

if anyone is confused i can use an example. say i grow ONE seed(call it S1). it turns out to be a female plant after a month of vegetive cycle. i want to make clones to keep the genetics of this S1 plant that i have.
should i....
A)take clones from this original S1 plant(since it was grown from seed)and continue to do this for a year or so, keeping it as my MOTHER PLANT(plant that is a source for clones)and continually take clones from S1 every 2 weeks

OR

B)take ONE clone(call it C1) from this S1 and completely DISCARD THE original S1(THE FIRST PLANT I GREW FROM SEED IN THE BEGINNING) take the C1 that i just rooted, grow it for about a month until its well established, then take multiple clones from it and keep it around for a year or so as a MOTHER PLANT(SOURCE OF CLONES).

who doesnt understand? what makes a better MOTHER PLANT? S1 or C1

Aztros said:

I shouldn't even give you the attention your so pathetically yearning for, but I'm going to anyway because your temper tantrum amuses me. One more time for the slow kid in the back... A clone taken from a plant grown from a seed, would be exactly the same as a clone taken from a previous clone of the initial plant. Here, I will even give you a diagram... A ---> B ---> C (simple) A is your mother plant grown from a seed. B is a clone taken from A. Now say you grow B to become your new mother plant. Now you take a cutting from B and get C as your new clone. Your new clone "C" is 100% genetically the same as "A" was. I don't understand how you can't understand. That is why they call it a clone man.

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is it better to keep A or B around to get CLONES C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,AND Z NOW I KNOW MY A B C'S NEXT TIME WONT YOU UNDERSTAND ME

bagada said:

if anyone is confused i can use an example. say i grow ONE seed(call it S1). it turns out to be a female plant after a month of vegetive cycle. i want to make clones to keep the genetics of this S1 plant that i have.
should i....
A)take clones from this original S1 plant(since it was grown from seed)and continue to do this for a year or so, keeping it as my MOTHER PLANT(plant that is a source for clones)and continually take clones from S1 every 2 weeks

OR

B)take ONE clone(call it C1) from this S1 and completely DISCARD THE original S1(THE FIRST PLANT I GREW FROM SEED IN THE BEGINNING) take the C1 that i just rooted, grow it for about a month until its well established, then take multiple clones from it and keep it around for a year or so as a MOTHER PLANT(SOURCE OF CLONES).

who doesnt understand? what makes a better MOTHER PLANT? S1 or C1

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I would recommend you take your original S1 plant and take a few cuttings from it. I say a few because you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket on getting only one to root. I would just use that initial S1 plant as your mother since you've already cut it which will allow it to produce more nodes. It will give you more cuttings faster than it would for you to grow out your rooted clones into new mothers. It's really all up to you man... Just promise me you won't just discard the original S1 plant. I mean at least flower her and smoke her! Whatever you do decide, any clone you have of that plant that is healthy and alive is and always will contain the same genetic qualities as your original S1 mother plant. Take care and good luck.

Like I said before, comedy! To the original poster.... If you do not believe yet that seed isyour answer... Just go ask Earl orr FDD2bck... As long as there are ignorrant people on here missinforming you, you will never know what to believe..... This moron up above is telling you that you can clone from a clone over and over again and there is no brakedown.... again,growing 101 shit that I can't even believe I am arguing about with someone in here.... Aztros... Go read a book.... You are way ot of your league when you don't even know the basics and talk like you are homegrown........ KOOK