What is wrong with my plant? (pics included)

jaytea

jaytea

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This strain is deep purple its about 15 inches tall

Fox Farms Ocean Forest for soil , I haven't used any nutes yet , only PH balanced water at 6.5 to 7.0

Growing under T5s , temperature is good in the grow room .. I have 3 other plants that look fine , but this one has some redish colored streaks and some tiny white spots all over it. (I have checked and there are no insects ie.. mites or anything else)

Please see pics and tell me what you think it is and what I should do.

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Bugeye

Bugeye

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I don't know for sure what your issue is but would like to know more about your water source. Also do you have a ppm reading on your water?

The white spots look a little like minerals. Can you scope them and confirm they are not rounded? Scope both sides of leaf and let us know what you see.

That soil is a little hot but in my experience if a plant survives seedling and early veg stage in it, they can adapt to it.
 
jaytea

jaytea

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My water source is tap water which comes from a storage tank that is fed by well waters here in Redmond WA. it does have some chlorine it but I let the water sit out in a bucket for 24 hours with an aquariam stone it (bubbler) to evaporate the chlorine. I always adjust the PH before watering also and the other 3 plants are doing just fine with none of these issues. One thing that I noticed is that this one plant in question is a little taller than the others. I think maybe a transplant into a larger container and maybe adding some calmag may help.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Cool, I would try to get a ppm reading on that water before deciding to give them more cal/mag. Well water can be very high in mineral content, varies by well. So it would be worth knowing. If you live somewhere with really high levels, your home could even have a water softener system which is another problem. Do you get calcium or mineral deposits on your faucets or toilet bowls? Even without a TDS meter this will tell you your mineral content is too high. If it is pretty low ppm level we can rule it out.
 
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RaiseTheLights

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In my experience, MJ plants prefer a PH range of 5.8-6.0/6.2 at the most...if your ph is high, it can lock out some of the available minerals and nutrients that the plants need. Getting a purer source of water would be preferred and just add in the necessary cal/mag as needed, depending on your root media.
 
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Amato6

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Brown spots r cuz of ur water... Im dealing with same thing.. Get 100$ ro system n add calmag plus

white spots def look like mite marks to me.... Dealt with them all last year
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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RaiseTheLights said:
In my experience, MJ plants prefer a PH range of 5.8-6.0/6.2 at the most...if your ph is high, it can lock out some of the available minerals and nutrients that the plants need. Getting a purer source of water would be preferred and just add in the necessary cal/mag as needed, depending on your root media.
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??? your experience must be with hydro or plants grown in soil very recently changed the way they uptake nutrients


I would look for mites like some other folks have mentioned. I also would ask how old the plant is. 15 inches tall doesn't tell as much as you think
 
jaytea

jaytea

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yep , I have spider mites. I bought a magnifying glass thingy that jewelers use and low and behold the little buggers are everywhere . I noticed my other 3 plants have started developing the little spots now too. OH SHIT WHAT TO DO?
 
jaytea

jaytea

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Here I took a picture of the little bastards : WP_20140107_004[1].jpg

I went and bought some Mite-x , the only thing I could find locally. Hope that shit works.
 
jaytea

jaytea

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Ok so after spraying them down here a few hours later I took another look under the magnifier and all the little shit heads are motionless and dead. Although I do see there are hundreds of eggs , How often should I spray for the mites to get rid of them and the eggs?
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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jaytea said:
Ok so after spraying them down here a few hours later I took another look under the magnifier and all the little shit heads are motionless and dead. Although I do see there are hundreds of eggs , How often should I spray for the mites to get rid of them and the eggs?
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glad to hear you killed thos assholes, not sure about the gestation time of spider mites. In 16 years I've never had them.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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I haven't used the Mite-x or Mighty Wash, so my question is, should these products be washed off between applications? Do they carry a burn risk if over-applied?
 
jaytea

jaytea

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Bugeye said:
I haven't used the Mite-x or Mighty Wash, so my question is, should these products be washed off between applications? Do they carry a burn risk if over-applied?
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the ingriedents say they just have cotton seed oil , clove oil and mollases . I think I will wait 2 days and spray them with pure water to rinse and the reapply the mite x the following day. what you think?

PS.. Also I am under T5s so it doesnt get too hot
 
dannyboy602

dannyboy602

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you're spraying in veg, right? hope so...the eggs will hatch and you'll need to spray again. and again a week after that. and that should do it. mite nymphs are easy to kill. its the adults that are difficult.
 
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RaiseTheLights

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tusseltussel said:
??? your experience must be with hydro or plants grown in soil very recently changed the way they uptake nutrients
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Correct...although I have extensive experience with general soil gardening/farming, my preferred method for cannabis has always been hydro and most recently coco.
The point being was that a PH imbalance on the high or low end will block or otherwise disrupt nutrient uptake in the root zone.

In some cases I remove heavily egg infested leaves after an oil or other mite spray application in order to get one step ahead of the soon to hatch mites...no eggs=no mites.
I recently took over a management/consulting position on a MMJ grow and inherited infected plants. We did an oil spray, removed all signs of damages leaves and have re-applyed spays about once a week...it has been about a month and a half and I have seen no more.
 
jaytea

jaytea

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dannyboy602 said:
you're spraying in veg, right? hope so...the eggs will hatch and you'll need to spray again. and again a week after that. and that should do it. mite nymphs are easy to kill. its the adults that are difficult.
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Yeah I got another month before I start flowering. I guess that gives me plenty of time... This will be last time I buy clones from the place I got them from for sure.
 
jaytea

jaytea

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RaiseTheLights said:
Correct...although I have extensive experience with general soil gardening/farming, my preferred method for cannabis has always been hydro and most recently coco.
The point being was that a PH imbalance on the high or low end will block or otherwise disrupt nutrient uptake in the root zone.

In some cases I remove heavily egg infested leaves after an oil or other mite spray application in order to get one step ahead of the soon to hatch mites...no eggs=no mites.
I recently took over a management/consulting position on a MMJ grow and inherited infected plants. We did an oil spray, removed all signs of damages leaves and have re-applyed spays about once a week...it has been about a month and a half and I have seen no more.
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I did clip off the leaves that were the most damaged and probably wouldn't recover before I sprayed and I flushed those leaves down the toilet. So I hope that reduced the birth rate . Also I do think if I lowered my ph a little it would probably help , but I had thought my FF OF soil adjusted PH or something naturally. So I just aimed for right in the middle 7.0
 
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