Medal of Honor recipient explains what real torture is
The prelude to the "response" below, from Colonel Bud Day,
Medal of Honor recipient - prisoner of war survivor - reads
"I didn't expect to be reminded of my treatment some 36
years ago on this holiday weekend but our politicians find
it worthy to ignore what some have tried to recount to them,
who have actually been there."
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I got shot down over N Vietnam in 1967..a squadron commander.
After I returned in 1973.. I published 2 books that dealt a
lot with "real torture" in Hanoi . Our make believe
president is branding our country as a bunch of torturers
when he has no idea what torture is.
As for me, put thru a mock execution, because I would not
respond...pistol whipped on the head...same event.. Couple
of days later...hung by my feet all day. I escaped and got
recaptured a couple of weeks later.. I got shot and
recaptured. Shot was OK...what happened after was not.
They marched me to Vinh.. put me in the rope trick,
trick..almost pulled my arms out of the sockets. Beat me on
the head with a little wooden rod until my eyes were swelled
shut, and my un-shot, unbroken hand a pulp.
Next day hung me by the arms...re-broke my right
wrist...wiped out the nerves in my arms that control the
hands..rolled my fingers up into a ball. Only left the
slightest movement of my L forefinger. So I started
answering with some incredible lies.
Sent me to Hanoi strapped to a barrel of gas in the back of
a truck.
Hanoi ..on my knees..rope trick again. Beaten by a big fool.
Into leg irons on a bed in Heartbreak Hotel.
Much kneeling--hands up at Zoo.
Really bad beating for refusing to condemn Lyndon Johnson.
Several more kneeling events. I could see my knee bone thru
kneeling holes.
There was an escape from the annex to the Zoo. I was the
Senior Officer of a large building because of escape..they
started a mass torture of all commanders.
I think it was July 7, 1969..they started beating me with a
car fan belt. In first 2 days I took over 300 strokes..then
stopped counting because I never thought I would live thru it.
They continued day-nite torture to get me to confess to a
non-existent part in the escape. This went on for at least
3 days. On my knees..fan belting.. cut open my scrotum
with fan belt stroke. opened up both knee holes again. My
fanny looked like hamburger..I could not lie on my back.
They tortured me into admitting that I was in on the
escape..and that my 2 room-mates knew about it.
The next day I denied the lie.
They commenced torturing me again with 3- 6- or 9 strokes of
the fan belt every day from about July 11 or 12th..to 14
October 1969. I continued to refuse to lie about my
roommates again.
Now, the point of this is that our make-believe president
has declared to the world that we ( U.S. ) are a bunch of
torturers.. Thus it will be OK to torture us next time when
they catch us.....because that is what the U.S. does.
Our make-believe president is a know nothing fool who thinks
that pouring a little water on some one's face, or hanging a
pair of women's pants over an Arabs head is TORTURE. He is
a meathead.
I just talked to MOH holder Leo Thorsness who was also in my
squadron in jail .... as was John McCain ... and we agree
that McCain does not speak for the POW group when he claims
that Al Gharib was torture ... or that "water boarding" is
torture.
Our president and those fools around him who keep bad
mouthing our great country are a disgrace to the United
States . Please pass this info on to Sean Hannity. He is
free to use it to point out the stupidity of the claims that
water boardin g ....which has no after effect... is torture.
If it got the Arab to cough up the story about how he
planned the attack on the twin towers in NYC ... hurrah for
the guy who poured the water.
BUD DAY, MOH
George Everett "Bud" Day (born February 24, 1925) is a
retired U.S. Air Force Colonel and Command Pilot who served
during the Vietnam War. He is often cited as being the most
decorated U.S.. service member since General Douglas
MacArthur, having received some seventy decorations, a
majority for actions in combat.. Day is a recipient of the
Medal of Honor.
Please pass on to the clueless
The prelude to the "response" below, from Colonel Bud Day,
Medal of Honor recipient - prisoner of war survivor - reads
"I didn't expect to be reminded of my treatment some 36
years ago on this holiday weekend but our politicians find
it worthy to ignore what some have tried to recount to them,
who have actually been there."
**********************************************
I got shot down over N Vietnam in 1967..a squadron commander.
After I returned in 1973.. I published 2 books that dealt a
lot with "real torture" in Hanoi . Our make believe
president is branding our country as a bunch of torturers
when he has no idea what torture is.
As for me, put thru a mock execution, because I would not
respond...pistol whipped on the head...same event.. Couple
of days later...hung by my feet all day. I escaped and got
recaptured a couple of weeks later.. I got shot and
recaptured. Shot was OK...what happened after was not.
They marched me to Vinh.. put me in the rope trick,
trick..almost pulled my arms out of the sockets. Beat me on
the head with a little wooden rod until my eyes were swelled
shut, and my un-shot, unbroken hand a pulp.
Next day hung me by the arms...re-broke my right
wrist...wiped out the nerves in my arms that control the
hands..rolled my fingers up into a ball. Only left the
slightest movement of my L forefinger. So I started
answering with some incredible lies.
Sent me to Hanoi strapped to a barrel of gas in the back of
a truck.
Hanoi ..on my knees..rope trick again. Beaten by a big fool.
Into leg irons on a bed in Heartbreak Hotel.
Much kneeling--hands up at Zoo.
Really bad beating for refusing to condemn Lyndon Johnson.
Several more kneeling events. I could see my knee bone thru
kneeling holes.
There was an escape from the annex to the Zoo. I was the
Senior Officer of a large building because of escape..they
started a mass torture of all commanders.
I think it was July 7, 1969..they started beating me with a
car fan belt. In first 2 days I took over 300 strokes..then
stopped counting because I never thought I would live thru it.
They continued day-nite torture to get me to confess to a
non-existent part in the escape. This went on for at least
3 days. On my knees..fan belting.. cut open my scrotum
with fan belt stroke. opened up both knee holes again. My
fanny looked like hamburger..I could not lie on my back.
They tortured me into admitting that I was in on the
escape..and that my 2 room-mates knew about it.
The next day I denied the lie.
They commenced torturing me again with 3- 6- or 9 strokes of
the fan belt every day from about July 11 or 12th..to 14
October 1969. I continued to refuse to lie about my
roommates again.
Now, the point of this is that our make-believe president
has declared to the world that we ( U.S. ) are a bunch of
torturers.. Thus it will be OK to torture us next time when
they catch us.....because that is what the U.S. does.
Our make-believe president is a know nothing fool who thinks
that pouring a little water on some one's face, or hanging a
pair of women's pants over an Arabs head is TORTURE. He is
a meathead.
I just talked to MOH holder Leo Thorsness who was also in my
squadron in jail .... as was John McCain ... and we agree
that McCain does not speak for the POW group when he claims
that Al Gharib was torture ... or that "water boarding" is
torture.
Our president and those fools around him who keep bad
mouthing our great country are a disgrace to the United
States . Please pass this info on to Sean Hannity. He is
free to use it to point out the stupidity of the claims that
water boardin g ....which has no after effect... is torture.
If it got the Arab to cough up the story about how he
planned the attack on the twin towers in NYC ... hurrah for
the guy who poured the water.
BUD DAY, MOH
George Everett "Bud" Day (born February 24, 1925) is a
retired U.S. Air Force Colonel and Command Pilot who served
during the Vietnam War. He is often cited as being the most
decorated U.S.. service member since General Douglas
MacArthur, having received some seventy decorations, a
majority for actions in combat.. Day is a recipient of the
Medal of Honor.
Please pass on to the clueless
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