What is this?

Call me a sleazy salesman trying to attract anyone with a title like this, but I'm quite unsure how to describe this with words. So I'll use your eyes instead.
Big thanks to like, anyone chiming in.

Blue Dream.
3gal fabric pot (From a 1/2gal pot 3 days prior to the photo)
74° ambient temp.
About 250w of led using 5w diodes
About 90w of CFL for supplemental side lighting.
Watering with 1000ppm iguana grow, ancient earth, b-52 and voodoo juice.
Received as a clone on 1/18/2018 in the condition as shown in the last photo.
So I've been vegging it myself for about 16 days. (About jizzed myself at the roots, this is my first attempt at both a clone and quality genetics)

Are these leaves fat with water because I foliar feed them? Is this the result of the stomata closing?
On top of that, the soil was more moist than I would have had it during transplant, (after seeing the root mass on her I had to act quick) like soaking wet.
Is this a result of overwatering?
She has only been under this led setup for as long as she has been in the 3gal pot. (About 3 days) is this light stress?
Before this, she was under a 96w 2ft, 4 bulb t5 with the 4 CFL's for side lighting.

I'm at a loss on how to describe the leaves?
As you can see, an older set is less defined looking I guess you could say, more flat with each blades edges coming together where as the afflicted leaves (even some of the new growth hiding under fan leaves) have very serrated edges and very wide peaks and valleys between the veins on the leaves. Is there some way to describe this already?
Because I am lost
They look healthy!

If you giving them ferts in their water, they don't need to be folier fed. That is just used to help correct a deficiency. They do look a bit over watered. Use the weight method. Lift the pot after watering, and don't water again till the pot is light again... usually about three to four days depending on temps and humidity.

blake9999 said:

If you giving them ferts in their water, they don't need to be folier fed. That is just used to help correct a deficiency.

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While I agree on the Overwatering look, and that it is unnecessary to foliar feed, I will strongly argue if you are implying It is not beneficial!

I have no humidity control where I am growing and considering it's winter I assume it's pretty dry air around here.
I want a higher humidity to close stomata slightly to encourage leaf enlargement. Also, foliar feeding helps to prevent them from over-Transpiring where more water than fertilizer is used, resulting in a high soil e.c. (Been battling that one. Not covered in basic agricultural books, been wondering why she has been drying out fairly quickly but having a runoff ppm of 2400. High soil e.c also would make watering in a fabric pot extra tricky. The soil becomes hydrophobic as the e.c. of it's miniscule moisture is repelling water like a damn umbrella. Foliar feeding also creates rhizosphere right on your leaf! Can cause immunity from a plethora of pathogens as well as protecting open wounds.

Sorry about the rant, but ever since I converted from the "Foliar Feeding is bad" group I've researched as much as I could about not only foliar feeding, but the reactions of a plant in whole. (Where I learned about soil E.C and over transpiration)

I digress, is your overwatering claim derived from there appearance of the leaves? Is that what it looks like? Oddly sharp, defined, even more "mature" looking leaves?

I grow in dirt and foliar feed weekly in veg. Doing so doubles my veg time to achieve the same amount of naturally occurring bud sites(not ones I caused with pinching/etc)

op has bad soil and feeding/watering habits.
skip all but the Iguana in soil for best results.
Do not fed at every watering.
With good drainage dump your water on your dirt untl a small amount of run off
happens. note the amount of water used each time you do it, get a feel for it.
when the container is light and the soil is drier to the bottom, water again.
Feed the Juice once per week with a normal watering(when dry/light)

Skip feeding all together for a 10 days or so, using the dry out/water method and your plants will begin to
thrive again, then start weekly applications of Iguana Juice. I did this and found the stuff to be just awesome(expensive too)
stinky sludge in hydro but super effective in soil/peat. A little goes a long way. A transplant to quality soil like FF or happy frog
or even peat moss straight would improve the plant in days not weeks.

best wishes

(IguanaJuicedotcom(lol)="all the macro, secondary, and micronutrients plus other co-factors necessary for optimum growth and yields" means it doesnt even need that other shit you use. buy a better light with your savings....

Looks like overwatering to me.
Let it dry out completely.
Water as Chiqifella describes.
Good luck.

Also, is it your experience with foliar feeding that has you hyped up on it, or something you read?

Clones starting to root, sure.
Otherwise it's not necessary if you have good watering habits, good lighting, and good airflow. I wouldn't do it too much.

I've used Iguana Juice with good results. Bloom. From start to end. Good stuff.

My eyes are really bad but in the first pic is that mites or some kind of pest?

Since you are foliar feeding shouldn't your leaves be spotless from being washed? Second pix has white dots. Got bugs? That sheet looks sick and over watered.

As it was probably missed, the plant was transplanted into soaked soil. I certainly do not have poor feeding or watering habits as she is growing explosively with pearly white roots. She is in perfect health condition, reacting to defoliation and lst seamlessly while popping out so many new leaves I'm defoliating every other day.

The photo is the day before transplant about 4 days ago. She isn't a a victim of overwatering. If anything, I drought stress her. Seems to give explosive growth when it finally feeds.

Believe it or not, that fuzzy look in the photo are trichomes. And I have a loupe if you guys are not persuaded by my judgement and want a close up.

I'm also pretty content with my setup, I flower in a 2x2 with one plant with a goal of 4-8 ounces per harvest. Works for me, no need for heat control the lights raise ambient temps just right. My veg area is just big enough to run out of room before harvest with one plant vegging.

Also I've never heard of minimum runoff, why so? Some nutrients simply don't flush out with pure water so you get salt buildup of specific fertilizers.

There is a buried report on Google about fertilizer salt solubility and mobility. It was mostly about calcium staying behind in soil without magnesium present in irrigation. I believe Nitrogen was also required to dislodge a few other macros, either way this is my understanding.

Also, my foliar appreciation is from a side by side I did 8 years ago. Didn't even know what a surfactant was then. Plants with the too high ppm foliar just shriveled. Too low ppm(50-100) and it didn't show much. But at 300ppm (in almost full veg maturity) she outgrew every other plant by an ounce more. I went from pulling an ounce or two from each harvest to almost 4 every harvest. I don't want crazy powered lights. I have a 4 ft height restriction total. I crouch in my grow room. Not beneficial to me.
I grow in 70% peat moss and 30% perlite (used to be more perlite but watering every day became tedious after about a thousand days) the medium is usually soaked in iguana juice and some beneficial microbes inoculants.

Look, I know the droop is there. Happened immediately after transplant as the soil again was completely soaked. Dripping even. She doesn't droop on me but that half gallon container was a solid rootball after the two weeks I've been vegging her so after seeing that I panicked.

I hate to sound like an ass but I've been doing things this way for a decade and I can promise you, knowing when to water couldn't be easier. I don't over feed, if you haven't noticed my medium is pretty much a soilless mix. So I feed her just as any other hydroponic grower would with similar results. Just no reservoir hassle. I know she likes it, in fact every week she clearly asks for more. I feed the same strength until new growth is a lighter green. Easy enough way to tell when to raise the strength. The only thing new is this being a clone grow and having decent genetics instead of growing bagseed from Texas.
How about this.
Is there anyone here with blue Dream?
Is this sudden defined leaf edges a sign of maturity? I'm not worried about anything other than that one thing guys, sorry to be a hard-headed ass but I've been taking care of this girl every single day. I can hear her loud and clear, I just don't know what the super sharp leaf blade look is all about. All my previous grows had instable genes. Super skinny 7 finger leaves right next to a fat 3 finger leaf but still popped out buds better than anyone around because curing was just unheard of. I thought of it like tobacco just without heat or pasteurization.

Also, the white in the second photo was actually ash... I'm also an avid smoker... Yay TMV