what is the ideal height to start flowering????

I kept my 250w only 6" away from a canopy at a plant that was LST'd down to 8" tall, ony 1.5 gal pot. They penetrate! haha. Im guessing though you could could get a good 12 inches of good light penetration. I wouldnt bother going under 16" unless you have side lighting.

you mean going over 16 inches not under 16 right?
 
yeah, I had the lights like 3 feet above the plants, and they stretched real bad....and then there was very little bud production

Damn I hope your plants give you better results this time..I was lucky and got 3 oz a plant on my first grow..
 
haha that's what I meant, sorry just a little baked

yeah, thats why I tied all the tops down. when everything was said and done, the tip of the bulb was 18.5" from the soil. So now I am wondering if this will work for me until I get new lights, I am about 2 weeks into flowering so far
 
now that the light is closer to all of the plant, will it start producing new budding sites, or is the plant done deciding where it is going to bloom
 
I now run a 1000 watt hps, I think the problem has been fixed, what does everyone think?
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