What is the all out best butane for BHO?

Skunkybud

Skunkybud

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I dunno if anyone said it but, I personally use Neon butane I get it at a store that's like a rocks throw away from me for $3.99 for a 300ml bottle. I've gotten some good product out of it but I don't seem to get as good of yields off butane that and I'm not at the ideal residence to be blasting tubes of butane at. Maybe its because I'm only using 1 can, IDK, I just prefer my iso I guess.
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Hemlock said:
A terpenator you say... r u fukin with me fadedawg???LOL....So can u explain a a bit more mate???
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A Terpenator is a fully enclosed extraction and recycle system, that allows you to pump a refrigerant like R-600 n-Butane, through a packed column of plant material, and strip out the plant terpenes, including the diterpene cannabinoids that we love and respect,

The refrigerant is then pumped off as a vapor, using a refrigerant recovery pump, and re-condensed back into a liquid, in the original storage tank for reuse.

That leaves the extracted oils behind in the lower chamber of the Terpenator.

The recovery tank is chilled to speed up the process and lower extraction temperatures, using an ice bath, or an alcohol/dry ice bath and the lower recovery pot can be heated to speed up the process.

Depending on how much heat was used in the process, the end product can range from white cotton candy shatter, to a dark amber partially decarboxylated oil.
 
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Hemlock

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Fadedawg said:
A Terpenator is a fully enclosed extraction and recycle system, that allows you to pump a refrigerant like R-600 n-Butane, through a packed column of plant material, and strip out the plant terpenes, including the diterpene cannabinoids that we love and respect,

The refrigerant is then pumped off as a vapor, using a refrigerant recovery pump, and re-condensed back into a liquid, in the original storage tank for reuse.

That leaves the extracted oils behind in the lower chamber of the Terpenator.

The recovery tank is chilled to speed up the process and lower extraction temperatures, using an ice bath, or an alcohol/dry ice bath and the lower recovery pot can be heated to speed up the process.

Depending on how much heat was used in the process, the end product can range from white cotton candy shatter, to a dark amber partially decarboxylated oil.
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Right got it..LOL.. I guess
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Hemlock said:
Right got it..LOL.. I guess
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It is simpler than it sounds, up close and personal. It is just a way to extract the cannabis cannabinoids and other terpenes using liquid butane, and then recover the butane for reuse, using the same technology that your refrigerator and air conditioner uses.

You use the butane to extract the oil as a liquid, boil the butane off as a gas under vacuum, and it leaves behind the oil that was suspended in it, just like if you boiled it off to atmosphere from a Pyrex pie dish.

Just like your refrigerator, that process produces both heat and cold, that we control by adding cold or heat.

You will find pictures, schematics, logic diagrams, etc, at http://skunkpharmresearch.com/projects/
 
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VladFromOG

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I dont mean to start any fights, but I know what Im about to say will. Yet Im going to anyway, because of the health risk to you guys, so Im going to leave this info here in the hopes that it helps at least one person, and then retreat back to my medical forums, lol. A lot of you are saying "Vector" is your favorite. Those who did: please, please, please, for your own sake, clean plate test your butane. I know brands like Vector claim they are pure, they even say refined on the bottle, but there is no regulation on butane or the claims they make. Because of this, legally they can sell 50% butane, 40% petroleum distillate and 10% industrial lube as "Pure Butane, 7x refined". You can easily test these claims by evaporating of a can of the butane by itself in a clean glass dish, waiting for it to come to room temp, then running your finger across to check for oils that wont evap, and smelling it for mercaptans, either of which will be left in your oil (yes, even after "winterizing"). Really, its easy to do, and you should do it on any solvent you may use, just to be sure it evaporates cleanly. Ive tested hundreds of butane brands, and the only one that has consistently tested pure is Colibri, and brands like Vector and Power et al. , the ones that make claims of refining times on the label, have all consistently failed the purity test. Vector 5x especially I find has copious amounts of a heavy white lipid lubricant that wont evap, 10 grams per 12oz in one batch I tested - even more than shitty cheap Ronsonol! It seems the more they say they are refined, the more impure they are. These industrial lubricants help with the functioning of butane lighters but are dangerous when vaped, one of the most common lubes is used to scar mices lungs to simulate emphysema in labs. For more info and some test results by myself and others, check out this thread: https://www.rollitup.org/medicating/653906-clean-plate-test-how-check.html For more info on BHO and vaping in general, check out the link in my sig. It covers not only the latest techniques and tech, but also dispells a lot of the common BS the marketers of BHO equipment have perpetuated in order to boost sales, and make no mistake: 50% of the things being pushed by commercial BHO equipment folks is BS, and usually a big health risk besides. Take the extra time and know what you are vaping!
 
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VladFromOG

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That is sad to hear, and just goes to show that you shouldnt take anyones recommendation of purity for granted, and always perform a clean plate test from each new batch of butane you buy regardless of brand - different manufacturers batches may have different results! I buy my butane a case at a time, and one can always gets sacrificed to the Gods of Purity, AKA undergoes the clean plate test. Any contamination and the rest of the butane goes in the lighter refill pile. Got about a hundred there, lol, but I dont think of it as waste, rather the price of insurance.
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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I dont know if I would say it failed anymore.... just produced weird results. ronson was so clean I couldnt even get a picture... there was nothing to photograph.



 
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VladFromOG

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Great job, VP! Could you do me a favor and post your results in the clean plate test thread? Im trying to get a big compilation from a bunch of users, to try and guide people toward good butanes (not that its a sub for doing the test yourself, just sucks to waste all that money trying random butane brands bc you dont know where to look) https://www.rollitup.org/medicating/653906-clean-plate-test-how-check.html Clean ronsonol, never thought Id see the day! Ditto on the impure colibri - def looks like some lubricant or maybe mercaptans! Really emphasizes the need to clean plate test *every time* - theres counterfeiters, variation between batches, and who knows what all else affecting purity. Thanks for sharing!
 
Bublonichronic

Bublonichronic

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VladFromOG said:
always perform a clean plate test from each new batch of butane you buy regardless of brand - different manufacturers batches may have different results! I buy my butane a case at a time, and one can always gets sacrificed to the Gods of Purity, AKA undergoes the clean plate test. Any contamination and the rest of the butane goes in the lighter refill pile. Got about a hundred there, lol, but I dont think of it as waste, rather the price of insurance.
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makes sense, different manufactures different processes.. maybe could find what state the manufacturer is in that makes the cleanes batches from said company? could maybe cut down on buyin bad batches
 
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smokythunder

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VladFromOG said:
I dont mean to start any fights, but I know what Im about to say will. Yet Im going to anyway, because of the health risk to you guys, so Im going to leave this info here in the hopes that it helps at least one person, and then retreat back to my medical forums, lol. A lot of you are saying "Vector" is your favorite. Those who did: please, please, please, for your own sake, clean plate test your butane. I know brands like Vector claim they are pure, they even say refined on the bottle, but there is no regulation on butane or the claims they make. Because of this, legally they can sell 50% butane, 40% petroleum distillate and 10% industrial lube as "Pure Butane, 7x refined". You can easily test these claims by evaporating of a can of the butane by itself in a clean glass dish, waiting for it to come to room temp, then running your finger across to check for oils that wont evap, and smelling it for mercaptans, either of which will be left in your oil (yes, even after "winterizing"). Really, its easy to do, and you should do it on any solvent you may use, just to be sure it evaporates cleanly. Ive tested hundreds of butane brands, and the only one that has consistently tested pure is Colibri, and brands like Vector and Power et al. , the ones that make claims of refining times on the label, have all consistently failed the purity test. Vector 5x especially I find has copious amounts of a heavy white lipid lubricant that wont evap, 10 grams per 12oz in one batch I tested - even more than shitty cheap Ronsonol! It seems the more they say they are refined, the more impure they are. These industrial lubricants help with the functioning of butane lighters but are dangerous when vaped, one of the most common lubes is used to scar mices lungs to simulate emphysema in labs. For more info and some test results by myself and others, check out this thread: https://www.rollitup.org/medicating/653906-clean-plate-test-how-check.html For more info on BHO and vaping in general, check out the link in my sig. It covers not only the latest techniques and tech, but also dispells a lot of the common BS the marketers of BHO equipment have perpetuated in order to boost sales, and make no mistake: 50% of the things being pushed by commercial BHO equipment folks is BS, and usually a big health risk besides. Take the extra time and know what you are vaping!
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Man if you guys read all the msds for all the products then you guys all would know that Stok FYR tane has > 90% n-butane thus making the highest quality possible without going to a specialty store like AirGas and ordering pure 100% n-butane. Use Stok FYR for all your extractions and you will thank me later.

http://stokusa.myshopify.com/pages/msds
 
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So i guess ill just go with some newport: 3 cans for $28.00 on ebay.


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I don't think we need a copy and paste of your ebay buy.
 
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chernobe

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Hello I am new to making extracts, we have only done it twice and made about a half oz of wax each time as trial runs until we get our process dialed in. Both runs we used cloud fuel 9x refined "pharm" grade butane. It was $70 per case and took 4-5 cans to make a half o of wax and sprayed out with no smell or visible residue on our pan. We will probably keep using this brand unless we find a better one, but so far so good.
 
bez420

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Sirdabsalot462 said:
Lucienne usually always passes ” plate test”

Today's Vector = clean plate, maybe 25% of the time now.
They are now adding lubricant oils for the Vector torches they more market.

Last couple of times I've used vector, lots of white greasy residue along the parameter of the oil, I THOUGHT it was clear oil. It is not.

IMO
Vector is no longer acceptable as a solvent.
Go with Lucienne, Colibri, or Newport.

And more refining does not necessarily mean it's better, as a matter of fact, in some manufacturers case, it's worse...
Because the filtration system used is never cleaned, the filters retain impurities, hence passing them forward, rather than being filtered away.
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Yes Sir! Newport seems to be readily available in SOME local shops in the DFW. Lucienne off ebay is my next step. But yeah Vector has become unacceptable for blasting. Good for the torch though. No Lubes in my shit please.
 
mantle7717

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200 proof nondenatured and your freezer homie.... a quart on ebay or amazon is 60,
place hq material in a container,freeze the bottle and the container over night,
in the morning take a glass cup/bowl and place a normal small metal strainer in the bowl
place both in the freezer for 20 mins

Pull bowl or cup with strainer out and place an 1/8 from the freezer into the metal strainer

Pour as little ethanol as needed over the material and let drip for 7 ish seconds into bowl

Return ethanol to freezer, and repeat.

Once finished with all material filter the liquid in the bowl through 4-5 coffee filters

Allow to warm to room temp, and this is my little secrete for flavor, take 2 gram of the finest nug of the extracted strain, place in the strainer and pour the room temp solution over the 2grams, this grabs a whole new level of terpene goodness

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