blazinkill504
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so you tell me dont look at the bible cause it wont save me...then you quote it? most churches today see baptism as a means of you bein cleansed of your sins and to come out with a new life aka bein saved.
what is it that convinces you ?
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sen.c
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Are you serious, I never said the such. The act of reading the Bible is not what saves you, neither is the act of Baptism. I am not concerned with what most churches today are saying or doing, that is the problem most of them are watering down the scripture and trying to be a seeker sensitive church to get people like you to cough up your hard earned dough in the name of prosperity. As the Bible states you should follow through with Baptism as a public statement of faith. The Baptism is just that it is a public affirmation that you have repented the "Dunking" is not what saves you.
Keep up the good work though, your doing an excellent job of proving your depth of understanding of the scripture.
blazinkill504
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dude you think i believe that shit? haha im sayin what THEY think not me so dont come at me like i dont know shit because in reality if you wanna take a good look at your scripture you'd realize that its about as true as the silver surfer comin here so we can get eaten by galactus.
blazinkill504
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this is the first thing i said to you, but im backin up? lol stay on point bro c'mon
blazinkill504
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ahhh im glad you think you know what went on in my life more than i do.
cannabis420420
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hope convinces me that there is a god 
or a higher power
or a higher power
blazinkill504
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you can learn anything from anybody bruh you just gotta be receptive to it.
Padawanbater2
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Remember, this is why I asked you to be as specific as possible in your explanation. I have no idea what, to you, means "deny self". What does that mean? I appreciate you replying back, I'm not trying to split hairs, I'm just an experimentation kinda guy. I plan on using your instructions, following them exactly as you lay them out, and seeing what happens.
"laying it all on the line" <-- try to avoid saying things like that, again, I don't know what that means. Be specific please.
How do I "drop my pride"? Do I just stand alone in a room and think this to myself, say it out loud, what's the best method? "I give up and I realize that everything I have is yours [God's] and you have given it to me and I realize that I can't do it [life?] alone"
OK, we'll see what happens. I'm going to follow the instructions you provide exactly as you lay them out. We'll test this out and see what happens.
What if nothing happens though? What then? Are you going to say that I didn't do it right? That I missed a step? That I just didn't believe it enough? I didn't surrender the correct way? I had ulterior motives from the start?
That's what I don't want to happen. I don't want to do this experiment and have nobody change their opinion. You say this is the way to reaching God, to understanding God, so I'm going to do it and see what happens. I want you to be respectful enough in the end, just like I will be, if the results don't pan out the way you thought they would, OK? Can you agree to that before we get started?
mexiblunt
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Zombies? did that really happen?
he says "the hour is coming" then says the dead shall hear the voice. I don't get at all what this is about? rapture?
If that's the case, all the sinners over the last 2000 years can still be saved/live/heaven? when they hear the voice of the sun of god. Must be talking bout the dead who never heard the voice. The rest never died, they are in heaven.
he says "the hour is coming" then says the dead shall hear the voice. I don't get at all what this is about? rapture?
If that's the case, all the sinners over the last 2000 years can still be saved/live/heaven? when they hear the voice of the sun of god. Must be talking bout the dead who never heard the voice. The rest never died, they are in heaven.
diesel15
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iknow, far out, right? iwas about to go to bed until something told me to pick up my bible and read. iread 7verses and something else tells me to post this verse. ladies and gentlemen, God is real. what are the odds of this?
mexiblunt
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It's not coincidence, you could have opened any page and posted the first verse you seen. This is what convinces you? have at it. It is far from convincing to me, the best I get out of it is that I will go on not-believing untill I die. Then I will be dead, for however long until this hour comes. Then I think if all of sudden I hear a voice after I'm long dead I'' probably then be convinced and will get to live again. woot win/win.
diesel15
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ithink you misunderstood it. God is life, so when you don't have life your without God. when you hear Jesus voice, you will awaken from death and be alive in God, which is life.
mexiblunt
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mexiblunt ch.1 V.1
(diesel15 speaking)
God is life, so when you don't have life your without God. when you hear Jesus voice, you will awaken from death and be alive in God, which is life.
Belief or no belief. This is way easier to understand what's being said. Could john have mis-understood too? Maybe you did? I need another opinion. It's just soo vauge and wishy washy. I'm pretty sure I am alive! I feel alive! Should I turn off my tunes and tv and all other noise just in case he is very quite? litterall/metaphor?
(diesel15 speaking)
God is life, so when you don't have life your without God. when you hear Jesus voice, you will awaken from death and be alive in God, which is life.
Belief or no belief. This is way easier to understand what's being said. Could john have mis-understood too? Maybe you did? I need another opinion. It's just soo vauge and wishy washy. I'm pretty sure I am alive! I feel alive! Should I turn off my tunes and tv and all other noise just in case he is very quite? litterall/metaphor?
Brazko
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sen.c
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Pada, I hear you. to deny self is a process that is very hard and is different for every person. The easy way to put it I guess is that the Lord tells us we should seek the things of God and not of man. So in saying that he is asking us to put faith in the fact that he has made a covenant with us and if we have faith in his word and come to him in submission and of an open heart in faith that he will provide the peace and shelter in him that we seek. Basically you have to have no ulterior motives, because he can see our heart he knows if we are being genuine or not regardless of what we do. If we do come to him as in answer his call genuinely he will take you and change you. I am really reluctant to give instruction due to the fact that this is an issue of the heart and God working in your spirit. I would just say that you know what is on your heart, as well as you know the things that you have reservations about that stir something inside you. You should make it a point to read the 10 commandments and understand how God see's them and what he is saying through them to us. After doing so I would pray to him and open up to him and tell him that you haven't kept the commandments and that you can't keep them and understand that only through the sacrifice of his son Jesus who was perfect and did keep the commandments can your relationship with God be restored.
It all begins at the Garden, when you answer the call you have to understand that Adam and Eve were created perfect and had a relationship with God. When they took of the tree at that moment sin entered the world and is severed the relationship instantly they had with God because God refuses to dwell with sin. After the relationship was severed God sent his only begotten son who was perfect and kept all the commandments to die for mans sins to restore the relationship between man and God through the repentance and faith that through the sacrifice of his son Jesus he would save you and it would restore the relationship between you and God.
A good way to look at it is as follows:
Leave all emotion and preconcieved notions out and ask yourself these things.
1. Have you ever stolen or taken anything that did not belong to you no matter how small or trivial? According to the Commandments God calls a person that has a thief.
2. Have you ever look upon another with lust? According to the commandments God calls the person that has an adulterer.
3. Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain? According to the commandments God calls the person that has a blasphemer.
4. Have you ever told a lie no matter how small? According to the commandments God call the person that has a liar.
With that being said and that is just 4 of the 10 commandments and you were standing in front of God and he was going to render judgement upon you according to his law; would he find you guilty?
God told us that the wages of sin is death. With that being said where would he send you? Heaven or Hell?
I can tell you this, if you indeed approach God with an open heart and genuinely answer his call you won't have to worry about it panning out it will change your life and as time goes on you will grow and grow in your walk and understanding of the character and love of God.