What is GH's KoolBloom powder and liquid nutrients for?

HiGHLiFE28 said:

I will just use the powder then unless the liquid is there for cheap. So what do you mean cut back on basic salts, I dont do anything but change the nutrients.

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He means basic nutes cause KoolBloom is strong

my basic nutes are maxibloom for flower so how do i cut back on salts?

use less maxi bloom.
So that you the nute strength is lower when using kool bloom.

I will say that at max strength FloraMicro/FloraBloom with Liquid Koolbloom my Sativa ladies (under 1000W HPS) handle the nute load just fine. Total PPM tops out at about 1300.

Yes, the liquid is a much less aggressive formula. The powder is some concentrated stuff, so GH recommends cutting back on the other nutrients that you are using with KoolBloom.

HTH

this thread came in handy. am running the same stuff as high life maxi grow and maxi bloom withliquid koolbloom. I like my results so far but man very tough to determin wether or not ou have nute burn mag deff? I started adding epsome salt to my res doesn't seem to be the problem.

I was running 1.5tps of maxibloom and 1 tsp of koolbloom to 1.5 gallon of water.my leaves are browning curling you name it . I'm at the end of the grow so I will have to do things diffrent next round. When I go to adding koolbloom might have to go 1/2tsp 1 tsp koolbloom per gallon. Then go up as plant gets bigger. This is the most frustrating part of growing.

HiGHLiFE28 said:

I will just use the powder then unless the liquid is there for cheap. So what do you mean cut back on basic salts, I dont do anything but change the nutrients.

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The powder will almost stop vertical growth the liquid is like a warm up for the powder the first part is like the first 3 weeks of flowering. You can use a 1/4 the powder instead of the liquid and it will work. Make sure you use a silica to make sure your buds stay dense

I run Maxibloom exclusively through Veg. Then add in Carboload to it for Bloom but im thinking about adding in a PK boost and considering KoolBloom.

Kool Bloom liquid is used from the first week of flower(not transition)all through flowering then the last week(ripening)before flush stop liquid KB and switch to DRY KB .5tsp pg for the last week of flower before flushing. It is very strong, do not use stronger(youll just fry your plants), do not use with KB liquid(again fry plants), and do not use before the last week to two weeks before flush tops. I use Pro-Tekt, CaliMagic, GH FloraMicro, GH FloraGro, GH FloraBloom, Rapid Start, Diamond Nectar, Liquid Kool Bloom, Floralicious Plus, FloraBlend, Flora Nectar, Kool Bloom dry, and Hydroguard for DWC in that order following the GH DWC Expert Recirculating Chart. It is an aggressive feed program for elevated levels of CO2 but I dont use CO2. The strain im growing now can handle full strength, not all strains can without high CO2. If your plants start getting nute burn, cut back to 1/2str and stay there OR in week 3 try going up to 2/3 strength. Week one should not be started until plants recover from transplant. No more than 50ppm nutes durring recovery. I only use hydroguard and Hormex for recovery. It could kill a plant to get nute burn before a plant is recovered and ready for nutes.

I use Maxibloom as base nutes.
I use KB liquid after two weeks flip.
KB powder last two weeks, cut it before flush.
I have done it once, it's the best result I ever had.

Cheers

GH in my opinion are the best nutrients all around period. Price, strength, source, percentages, and usabity. Cannot be beat! One example Si, 10% sillica, Rhino Piss(im sorry Rhino Skin) 0.1% sillica. 0.1%! Fancy label, fancy bottle, fancy marketing, watered down goat piss! Oh triple the money too! There are reasons N.A.S.A uses only General Hydro.

Try the Kool Bloom on half of your plants and see if you can tell the difference. I can't. I have used it off and on over the years and can never see a difference. Straight Lucas formula seems to be all I need.

HiGHLiFE28 said:

i use maxi bloom for flowering whats the difference man?

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The diference is tha koolbloom is not food, it is to increase the size and estimulate the flowers or fruits in the flower period, the dry one they recomend to use it at the last week to ripen before flush..

JJARTS said:

The diference is tha koolbloom is not food, it is to increase the size and estimulate the flowers or fruits in the flower period, the dry one they recomend to use it at the last week to ripen before flush..

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wrong. koolbloom IS food. got N,P,K,Mg and Sulfur.

Lucas formula is all you need like @70's natureboy said previously

Lucas formula has no where near all the minerals plants need for top end production. Lucas formula id for people that want to skim by growing something to get high on. These colas are 18", there are 16 of them on one plant, and is only week 3 flower. These buds at 3 weeks are as big as a lot of peoples I see near harvest. There are many many more minerals that plants use in nature than what is in any two or three part base. They are called base nutrients for a reason. I never ever have to support buds no matter how huge they get. Results are the proof.

Actually week 2.5 flower.

chronicals77 said:

Lucas formula has no where near all the minerals plants need for top end production. Lucas formula id for people that want to skim by growing something to get high on.

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wrong. the guy who came up with Lucas did way more grows than you ever have.

let me guess, you like Advanced nutes huh?

chronicals77 said:

There are many many more minerals that plants use in nature than what is in any two or three part base.

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your degree in botany is from where? care to elaborate which ones are in nature and which ones aren't in micro and bloom.

its called Micro because it has all the micronutrients in it.

have you ever used Lucas?

no need for a PK boost cause it already has it. and no need for cal mag either.

Plants need a lot more than micro nutrients, and npk. They need root microbes, sillica, fluvic and humic acids, carbs, and plants absolutely need calcium and magnesium and micro products dont have enough for all plants. Calcium is critical for nutrient uptake and preventing blossom rot. The Lucas formula is for people that are either lazy, unable to grow properly, or cheap and want to just get by half ok. Again, it has no where near the minerals plants need to push them to perform. Advanced nutrients are watered down garbage! GH full line including advanced products are the best products out there for DWC. Make no mistake, DWC done properly is as good as cannabis gets. Hoe would anyone here know what I have or havent grown. I been growing many species of plants for 23 years. To tell people especially beginners that Micro and Bloom is all you need and all the advanced products are a waste of money and do nothing is irresponsible. N.A.S.A grew cannabis and all thier crops using GH products and I promise you it was more than Micro and Bloom. I'll tell anyone this, I dont care who they are! How can you argue with someone that has 16 18" colas on one plant at week 2.5 of flower and pulls 2lbs per plant per 1000w without co2? I want to see those results using nothing but "Lucas Formula". Lucas must not know what he thinks he knows or wants everyone to think he knows. I see so called "Master Gardeners" not getting the results I do. If people want to believe this crap and are happy with mid grade results then be my guest, ill keep doing what do best. Just because im new on this forum does not mean im new to growing. I adapted my prior knowledge to indoor cultivation very quickly. I learn very quickly and perform rapidly, what can I say.

chronicals77 said:

They need root microbes,

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wrong

chronicals77 said:

carbs

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wrong again

chronicals77 said:

absolutely need calcium and magnesium and micro products dont have enough for all plants.

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lucas ratio: no need for cal/mg. it's in the micro and bloom

chronicals77 said:

I dont care who they are! How can you argue with someone that has 16 18" colas on one plant at week 2.5 of flower

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you don't. no way that is 2.5 wks from 12/12.

chronicals77 said:

and pulls 2lbs per plant per 1000w

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so you pull 8lbs per 1K? sure you do.

if you had half a clue, you'd know that nutes are the least important variable in growing. you shouldn't be telling a newb that nutes are #1. get everything else dialed in and then nutes become somewhat relevant