What Ever Happened to Fogponics

FlatOutFoggin · Feb 26, 2020

My setup.
Though after building it. I seen a vid of a guy using a shopvac(wet/dry) to move the fog. I tried those "waterproof" fans from amazon. They last a month. Lol not water proof. But to run a fan 24/7 till roots are on clones would require 2 fans. Betting without the original boxfan blades cooling the boxfan motor running 24/7 will burn it up. Same with shopvacs.
But in my blueprint the two pipes running out I have the clones on the top pipe. Learning..I think if i had the clones on the bottom pipe the fog that is always settling at the lower levels may be enough fog for the clones. Bored the holes wrong. Spaced for clones on top and for bigger veg down low.
Btw my trick to nuting while my ppm is super low in res. While cloning is in process in the same pipe. I mist the already bigger vegging plants with nutes. Till clones get nice roots built-up. Then I bring the ppm up. Which was taking me weeks to get clones going. Unlike others ive heard say days. Thinking to dry.
Also thinking...if the top gets a bit drier as it is. That would help get the bigger plants ready for soil. For many have said and shown that it roughens and thickens up the base roots. Making it survive transplanting better. Might test the water temp. coming out of the chiller aswell. Running it into the top pipe. If not to cold. Making this a multi system a drain table with fog. Just to get more nutes/water to the now bigger plants up top. Will see if thats needed in time. First switching pipes. Veg up clones down.

SamWE19 · Feb 27, 2020

FlatOutFoggin said:
My setup.
Though after building it. I seen a vid of a guy using a shopvac(wet/dry) to move the fog. I tried those "waterproof" fans from amazon. They last a month. Lol not water proof. But to run a fan 24/7 till roots are on clones would require 2 fans. Betting without the original boxfan blades cooling the boxfan motor running 24/7 will burn it up. Same with shopvacs.
But in my blueprint the two pipes running out I have the clones on the top pipe. Learning..I think if i had the clones on the bottom pipe the fog that is always settling at the lower levels may be enough fog for the clones. Bored the holes wrong. Spaced for clones on top and for bigger veg down low.
Btw my trick to nuting while my ppm is super low in res. While cloning is in process in the same pipe. I mist the already bigger vegging plants with nutes. Till clones get nice roots built-up. Then I bring the ppm up. Which was taking me weeks to get clones going. Unlike others ive heard say days. Thinking to dry.
Also thinking...if the top gets a bit drier as it is. That would help get the bigger plants ready for soil. For many have said and shown that it roughens and thickens up the base roots. Making it survive transplanting better. Might test the water temp. coming out of the chiller aswell. Running it into the top pipe. If not to cold. Making this a multi system a drain table with fog. Just to get more nutes/water to the now bigger plants up top. Will see if thats needed in time. First switching pipes. Veg up clones down.

I’ve been reading up on fogponics lately and info is limited. Most people I see say it doesn’t work for flower.

House of hydro claim their products work and produce enough mist for all plants needs. They say people just underside the fogger and don’t create a thick enough mist.

Anyone able to back that up?

FlatOutFoggin · Feb 27, 2020

SamWE19 said:
I’ve been reading up on fogponics lately and info is limited. Most people I see say it doesn’t work for flower.

House of hydro claim their products work and produce enough mist for all plants needs. They say people just underside the fogger and don’t create a thick enough mist.

Anyone able to back that up?

Nope. Haven't seen a vid on flowering in fog myself. House of hydro are the ones i use. But in flower a plant needs alot more nutes. I think it would gunk up the fogger to much. Though havent tested. I just h2o2 drip clean skunkwerks and ph bakance veg. Flowering takes gooky stuff lol

SamWE19 · Feb 27, 2020

FlatOutFoggin said:
Nope. Haven't seen a vid on flowering in fog myself. House of hydro are the ones i use. But in flower a plant needs alot more nutes. I think it would gunk up the fogger to much. Though havent tested. I just h2o2 drip clean skunkwerks and ph bakance veg. Flowering takes gooky stuff lol

I would setup a test with one plant but I have no means to cool the water so the temps will probably get out of control

rkymtnman · Feb 27, 2020

check oout youtube. this is the dude's flowering setup. he has his veg on a different video.

rkymtnman · Feb 27, 2020

SamWE19 · Feb 27, 2020

rkymtnman said:

Seen those but doesn’t show much detail into how much mist needed for that huge system. I’d have a guess and say many 12 disc house of hydro units... also if he is recirculating water back to res and How he’s getting it back. All those details would be nice

rkymtnman · Feb 27, 2020

SamWE19 said:
Seen those but doesn’t show much detail into how much mist needed for that huge system. I’d have a guess and say many 12 disc house of hydro units... also if he is recirculating water back to res and How he’s getting it back. All those details would be nice

send him an email. i think he put his addy on one of those videos.

SamWE19 · Feb 27, 2020

rkymtnman said:
send him an email. i think he put his addy on one of those videos.

Yeah did it a few mins ago haha. We think alike. I hope he gets back to me.

If I can get this to work and do it as a drain to waste it will make my vertical grow room design 10 x simpler

rkymtnman · Feb 27, 2020

SamWE19 said:
Yeah did it a few mins ago haha. We think alike. I hope he gets back to me.

If I can get this to work and do it as a drain to waste it will make my vertical grow room design 10 x simpler

man, if i had a vert setup like that, i wouldn't know what to do with myself. i don't see why you couldnt do it dtw. i would almost think even with the added nute expense, it would be much more productive and easier

SamWE19 · Feb 27, 2020

rkymtnman said:
man, if i had a vert setup like that, i wouldn't know what to do with myself. i don't see why you couldnt do it dtw. i would almost think even with the added nute expense, it would be much more productive and easier

Yeah I currently have a resevoir with low profile totes connected together so that my water can flow back into the resevoir. I have low height issues so it takes away a lot of my grow space. If I can do dtw and fog I can get a larger footprint on my grow and less hassle recirculating 1000l of water in 12 low profile totes

rkymtnman · Feb 27, 2020

SamWE19 said:
Yeah I currently have a resevoir with low profile totes connected together so that my water can flow back into the resevoir. I have low height issues so it takes away a lot of my grow space. If I can do dtw and fog I can get a larger footprint on my grow and less hassle recirculating 1000l of water in 12 low profile totes

if i had more space, i think i would try to make a 55 gal plastic barrel into a fog unit. just to try it out. i've also seen a commercial fogger (like for a club) vented into a closed space which seemed to work really well too

SamWE19 · Feb 27, 2020

rkymtnman said:
if i had more space, i think i would try to make a 55 gal plastic barrel into a fog unit. just to try it out. i've also seen a commercial fogger (like for a club) vented into a closed space which seemed to work really well too

Limited space ... I know all about that lol. I run my business from home in the attic. I have a family and live out in middle of the sticks so I’d rather struggle with the space issues than find somewhere to rent/buy as id have to be out all day tending to the plants. Working from home keeps me around the family.

Optimising yields in a restricted space is hard though. It’s a massive attic though, 15m x 15m total floor space but the slope rooof is the issue.

I’m currently trying to imagine ways or positions I can place plants to increase sq footage.

My current grow has vertical towers stacked with lights directly in the middle but I feel I can do better

Keesje · Feb 27, 2020

SamWE19 said:
I’ve been reading up on fogponics lately and info is limited. Most people I see say it doesn’t work for flower.

House of hydro claim their products work and produce enough mist for all plants needs. They say people just underside the fogger and don’t create a thick enough mist.

Anyone able to back that up?

I wonder how their fogger works then.
With the discs it is physically impossible to create a mist in which the nutes stay in the water.
The drops simply become too heavy.
But perhaps they have invented a new method. Or is it not a fog, but rather a fine mist as you see it at HPA.

FlatOutFoggin · Feb 27, 2020

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Keesje said:
I wonder how their fogger works then.
With the discs it is physically impossible to create a mist in which the nutes stay in the water.
The drops simply become too heavy.
But perhaps they have invented a new method. Or is it not a fog, but rather a fine mist as you see it at HPA.

they are called mistmakers. Perhap it isn't quite fog sized droplets. Seems good here. Still starting new setup. Will know once the veg plants get bigger if they getting the nutes they need. Plan on 21weeks in fog veg. So they will need nutes.

fragileassassin · Feb 28, 2020

The House of Hydro seems to be the go to place for ultrasonic mist makers from my search into diy humidification.
Ive been wanting to get a setup to use as a humidifier, but maybe ill play around with it and grow some plants out first.
The pictures in their FAQ are the same pictures from from the video @rkymtnman posted
They claim this on their site.
"Water droplets from a Mist Maker will carry anything that the water contains, unlike the humidifiers that heat the water. Minerals, nutrients, anti-fungals and even insecticide from the reservoir will be carried in the fog. This allows for excellent results while using a mist maker for fogponics, greenhouse humidification and sterilization or treating with insecticides. How can you argue with these results! "

The House of Hydro- Mist Maker FAQ's

Check out frequently asked questions about Mist Makers. Get all your answers for FAQ's about pond foggers.

www.thehouseofhydro.com

SamWE19 · Feb 28, 2020

The guy from that video replied to me with details. He’s using 1000 psi direct drive pumps so it sounds more like HPA than fog ponics

SamWE19 · Feb 28, 2020

fragileassassin said:
The House of Hydro seems to be the go to place for ultrasonic mist makers from my search into diy humidification.
Ive been wanting to get a setup to use as a humidifier, but maybe ill play around with it and grow some plants out first.
The pictures in their FAQ are the same pictures from from the video @rkymtnman posted
They claim this on their site.
"Water droplets from a Mist Maker will carry anything that the water contains, unlike the humidifiers that heat the water. Minerals, nutrients, anti-fungals and even insecticide from the reservoir will be carried in the fog. This allows for excellent results while using a mist maker for fogponics, greenhouse humidification and sterilization or treating with insecticides. How can you argue with these results! "

The House of Hydro- Mist Maker FAQ's

Check out frequently asked questions about Mist Makers. Get all your answers for FAQ's about pond foggers.

www.thehouseofhydro.com

I have a 6 disc house of hydro mist maker here... it seems like the mist is no different to any other ultrasonic disc. The company do seem adamant that it carries nutrients fine though. They said to me the issue people have is that they never provide enough fog. It needs to be a very thick and dense fog they say

FlatOutFoggin · Feb 28, 2020

fragileassassin said:
The House of Hydro seems to be the go to place for ultrasonic mist makers from my search into diy humidification.
Ive been wanting to get a setup to use as a humidifier, but maybe ill play around with it and grow some plants out first.
The pictures in their FAQ are the same pictures from from the video @rkymtnman posted
They claim this on their site.
"Water droplets from a Mist Maker will carry anything that the water contains, unlike the humidifiers that heat the water. Minerals, nutrients, anti-fungals and even insecticide from the reservoir will be carried in the fog. This allows for excellent results while using a mist maker for fogponics, greenhouse humidification and sterilization or treating with insecticides. How can you argue with these results! "

The House of Hydro- Mist Maker FAQ's

Check out frequently asked questions about Mist Makers. Get all your answers for FAQ's about pond foggers.

www.thehouseofhydro.com

I used my backup 12 outlet mistmaker when my big dual fan standard $150 humidifier broke. As they usual only seem to last a year or two. But while i was waiting to return it with a warranty. I used that mistmaker. It worked better than the humidifier. Had it on for 15min of for 45min. With a box fan moving the mist.

SamWE19 · Feb 28, 2020

FlatOutFoggin said:
I used my backup 12 outlet mistmaker when my big dual fan standard $150 humidifier broke. As they usual only seem to last a year or two. But while i was waiting to return it with a warranty. I used that mistmaker. It worked better than the humidifier. Had it on for 15min of for 45min. With a box fan moving the mist.

I’m Thinking of designing a fog system that is rotary like the volksgarden system. Just need to figure out how you properly size a motor to make it turn. A quick google put out loads of random math jargon I didn’t understand

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