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SensimillaScientist

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I need some help with my plant. Here is the story.
- My first plant
- 150 Hps and 2 45w Cfls
- Temp around 88 F and Humidity around 70%
- I just now turned the lights to 12-12 from 16/8
- Miracle Grow with moister protection soil (I am poor, it was free)
- The plant is about 2 months old, and I know I stunted it for the first month with over watering and what ever else comes from over watering in MG soil.
- For the last month, I have been adding a little Big Bloom and vinegar into the water.
- It has been loosing its oldest growth for about 3 weeks now, 2 leaves at a time. These two dieing now will be the 3rd pair that I lose.
- Last week, thinking the problem was fungus/virus, nute burn, or compacted roots, I took the plant out of the pot, dunked the roots in a 5 gallon bucket of water to remove as much soil as I could, then repotted back into another pot of miracle grow (again, I am poor).

Some of the newer growth coming off of the lower stem is also yellowing.

What do you think I should do?
 

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o= High= o

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You are killing ur plant dude with all that stuff,no bloom no vinegar not with MG, vinegar. is what peeps put in the water to bring the ph down, do u no what ur ph is? bloom is for flowering cycle of the plants life, dont take it out of her house unless ur going to transplant, for now i would flush it with 3 times the amount of water ur pot can hold then just let her be till she starts to recover, MG has nutes in it so by adding more she is burning up, i see cfl's make sure they aint to close,after u flush let it dry all the way out till you water again, see if you can find the numbers on your dirt under the letters N-P-K and post them, there be people around to help, also what light cycle how much STUFF ru putting in the water, how old is da plant, if ur carfull it can survive
 

SensimillaScientist

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Thank you for your response High.
- The plant is about 2 months old, and I just put it into flower yesterday (hoping to get buds before it dies).
- I do not know what the Ph of my soil is
- I was adding 1/2 the dosage on the big bloom bottle and a couple squirts of 10% acidity vinegar.

Off the back of the MG Soil:
Total nitrogen (N)* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.21%
0.12% ammoniacal nitrogen
0.09% nitrate nitrogen
Available phosphate (P2O5)*. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.07%
Soluble potash (K2O)* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.14%

And I have not watered or added anything to the pot since I flushed it out in that 5 gallon bucket. So if I just water it with tap water, once a week, from here on out, do I have a chance? Or should I do something else?

Thanks again o=High=o
 

SensimillaScientist

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I also have another plant growing in the same soil. Should I add anything to the water or just tap water all the way through its life?

Also, anybody else have any other advice on what is wrong or what I should do?
 

o= High= o

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Thank you for your response High.
- The plant is about 2 months old, and I just put it into flower yesterday (hoping to get buds before it dies).
- I do not know what the Ph of my soil is
- I was adding 1/2 the dosage on the big bloom bottle and a couple squirts of 10% acidity vinegar.

Off the back of the MG Soil:
Total nitrogen (N)* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.21%
0.12% ammoniacal nitrogen
0.09% nitrate nitrogen
Available phosphate (P2O5)*. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.07%
Soluble potash (K2O)* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.14%

And I have not watered or added anything to the pot since I flushed it out in that 5 gallon bucket. So if I just water it with tap water, once a week, from here on out, do I have a chance? Or should I do something else?

Thanks again o=High=o
You Welcome, it has a chance after all its a weed and can take some abuse but not just water from here on out just till it gets well might be two weeks, boil your water then let it cool to room temp or let it sit out without a lid for 24 hrs before u water again, no misting the leaves
 

o= High= o

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I also have another plant growing in the same soil. Should I add anything to the water or just tap water all the way through its life?

Also, anybody else have any other advice on what is wrong or what I should do?
dont add nutes yet that soil good for prolly 30 days, if u have patience youll get more advice and i would see if anybody else has more to say besides just me
 

Foolieo

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misting the leafs will create small magnifying classes all over the leaves that will make hot spots and burn your leaves
 

SensimillaScientist

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Yes, I could see how that could hurt them (basically small convex lenses), but I am guessing that is not my problem at the moment since only the oldest growth is effected. And, I thought spraying plants was good for them? So now don't spray them, or do not EVER spray them?
 

Foolieo

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well see this is where i am up in the air. due to this being a forum i get alot of differant answers. threw my growth i have been told in earlier stages never to mist the plants but it would be ok once they got amonth or 2 old. but then when mine where amonth or 2 old i was told never to mist your plants. both answers from many differant people. and most the time with newer members like my self commenting so idk tbh... trial and error... i know with my clones atm i need to mist there leaves because they do not have roots atm and drink threw there leaves. and are in a bubbleponic tote. not soil.
 

o= High= o

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Yes, I could see how that ould hurt them (basically small convex lenses), but I am guessing that is not my problem at the moment since only the oldest growth is effected. And, I thought spraying plants was good for them? So now don't spray them, or do not EVER spray them?
i dont think i ever her of anyone spraying there plants in flowering it can burn em it can cause mold,
the first pic i mist em every 7 days when i change res. the 2nd one i dont at all after i change to 12/12






But the little clones i mist 3 times a day till roots show then 1 time a day till they get a home
 

leetsoup

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from my experience, misting has never provided problems throughout the entire veg period however once buds form it is highly unsuggested; i did however spray each one of my buds today with fresh water as i had been making Growth Max applications and their is a slight residue that id rather clean off if i can. i had a fan blast the plant will i shook each shoot, the plant was left to dry in the fan.
 

o= High= o

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i have sprayed my budding plants with neem oil as a mite prevenatative as it is safe all the way till harvest cuz i did once have spider mites and dont wanna fight them again
 

kho20

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misting the leafs will create small magnifying classes all over the leaves that will make hot spots and burn your leaves
ive heard this too but i dont agree with it with good airflow it should dry up quickly if your spraying it till its soaked to the point it has time to burn then you shouldnt be doing it i sprayed mine almost daily during veg

and in flower you dont need to spray unless its a foliar feed or pest remedy and feeding should be in early hours of light spraying during flower can cause bud mold
 

SensimillaScientist

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Those two bottom leaves are more yellow and more of the leaf tips have turned brown. And, The next set of leaves are yellowing. I know it is still way to early, but I am ants to see if there is any other advice on what I can do to stop or slow the dying of my plant, or is waiting the best thing I can do?
 

kho20

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sounds like a nitrogen def to me but it could be a nute burn from something id have to see a pick to give a better guess
 

kho20

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sorry lol thought i was on someone elses thread but i jus looked again and yeah that looks like more of a ph/ nute problem id stop with the vinegar and nutes and jus go straight water and see if that clears up a lil the dead parts are done for but if the yellow goes a lil green and stops spreading that was ur problem for sure

and yeah if you give anything when using MG it has to be next to nothing cus MG uses nutes that slowly releases with water so every time it gets wet it feeds
 
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