What do Progressives Contribute to Our Country

echelon1k1 said:
Your example only illustrates that punishment for crack possession is harsher than that of coke possession which I agree is ridiculous considering coke is a precursor, but are you implying only black people use crack? New York serves as an example that race and crime are indeed related. http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-01.htm
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Not saying only blacks smoke crack, but it was pushed into the black community and was/is still a drug that is used mostly by blacks..Just like meth is used mostly by whites.

Do you really think that blacks commit more crimes because of the color of the skin...and racial and social injustice plays no part in it?
 
echelon1k1 said:
12% of the populace is responsible for what % of the crime again?
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rates of poverty are roughly triple among blacks as well, it's the legacy of centuries of unequal access to opportunity in this nation.

and i don't know how things work down there, but up here in the states, crime tends to center around the poorer communities regardless of skin color.

but go on and run with the white supremacist argument. hell, you did join their "like minded" group.

twice.
 
UncleBuck said:
rates of poverty are roughly triple among blacks as well, it's the legacy of centuries of unequal access to opportunity in this nation.

and i don't know how things work down there, but up here in the states, crime tends to center around the poorer communities regardless of skin color.

but go on and run with the white supremacist argument. hell, you did join their "like minded" group.

twice.
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Is that really the way he/she thinks ???
 
londonfog said:
Not saying only blacks smoke crack, but it was pushed into the black community and was/is still a drug that is used mostly by blacks..Just like meth is used mostly by whites.

Do you really think that blacks commit more crimes because of the color of the skin...and racial and social injustice plays no part in it?
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I've read "Dark Alliance" the book that really brought the crack epidemic into focus... While I don't discount SES in playing a major part in motivating non violent offenders, I cannot accept racial and social injustice as a suitable excuse for violent crime, regardless of SES....

When looking at incarceration rates it's safe to say based on historical and statistical precedent that males are more prone to criminality than females. Is this an indictment of the male gender? Not in my opinion and the same would apply to the incarceration rates of black males. It cannot all be a result of indirect discrimination and I believe it has a lot to do about the lack of suitable male role model.
 
UncleBuck said:
rates of poverty are roughly triple among blacks as well, it's the legacy of centuries of unequal access to opportunity in this nation.

and i don't know how things work down there, but up here in the states, crime tends to center around the poorer communities regardless of skin color.

but go on and run with the white supremacist argument. hell, you did join their "like minded" group.

twice.
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Lucky your opinions are on par with a mooching college dropout... Ooops that's right...
 
burgertime2010 said:
You are free to surrender. I am free to keep on moving. Civil Liberties is part of it, the real allure is progress. We both fear the future but for different reasons. I don't see dark heart abstractions, I see consumption as the irresistible, change as necessary, and a fight no body can win. I don't give up though....
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"Surrender" is an inapt metaphor, with its implication of the knowledge of the axis of morality. As long as you think you are a warrior of What is Right, you are your own worst enemy, and one of mine. Jmo.
 
UncleBuck said:
rates of poverty are roughly triple among blacks as well, it's the legacy of centuries of unequal access to opportunity in this nation.

and i don't know how things work down there, but up here in the states, crime tends to center around the poorer communities regardless of skin color.

but go on and run with the white supremacist argument. hell, you did join their "like minded" group.

twice.
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Sounds like complete bullshit. Asians have been as discriminated against as blacks.
Blacks have actually had it easier than other races for years in many regards.
Examples would be first priority for many jobs, admittance to universities before
others despite sub standard scores as well as other opportunities not available to others.

Your racist arguments are always absurd!
 
UncleBuck said:
why did you join a "like minded" group of white nationalists and holocaust deniers (twice)?
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Last time I checked Australians have implied rights just like the ones guaranteed in your constitution. Do you object to individuals exercising those rights? And for the record could you please post a link of anything I posted to that group? You'll be hard pressed as I did not post to that group... I'm glad joining got your hackles up - you make it too easy for me!

Again please cite my holocaust denials, because apparently holocaust denial these days isn't holocaust denial... Saying the Palestinians have been slaughtered and what they've experienced is akin to genocide; does not denigrate, in any way, shape or form what happened to Jews and non Jews in the camps during WW2
 
echelon1k1 said:
Last time I checked Australians have implied rights just like the ones guaranteed in your constitution. Do you object to individuals exercising those rights? And for the record could you please post a link of anything I posted to that group? You'll be hard pressed as I did not post to that group... I'm glad joining got your hackles up - you make it too easy for me!

Again please cite my holocaust denials, because apparently holocaust denial these days isn't holocaust denial... Saying the Palestinians have been slaughtered and what they've experienced is akin to genocide; does not denigrate, in any way, shape or form what happened to Jews and non Jews in the camps during WW2
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you never answered the question, so i will ask it again:*why did you join a "like minded" group of white nationalists and holocaust deniers (twice)?
 
UncleBuck said:
you never answered the question, so i will ask it again:*why did you join a "like minded" group of white nationalists and holocaust deniers (twice)?
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reading comprehension limited means - learn some... Or did you miss my point regarding your hackles?

Since we're playing call and response did you post members details to Law enforcement authorities?
 
thecoolman said:
You have no argument so you take a partial sentence with no context and spam.
The usual liberal/communist Bucky way!
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there's nothing partial about being black in america, it's so easy!

black people can't even walk down the street without jobs and scholarships being lobbed at them from every direction.

it's a good thing we have people like you around to illuminate these important truths.
 
echelon1k1 said:
reading comprehension limited means - learn some... Or did you miss my point regarding your hackles?

Since we're playing call and response did you post members details to Law enforcement authorities?
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still no answer, just a lame attempt at changing the subject:*why did you join a "like minded" group of white nationalists and holocaust deniers (twice)?
 
UncleBuck said:
still no answer, just a lame attempt at changing the subject:*why did you join a "like minded" group of white nationalists and holocaust deniers (twice)?
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Can you not read? I knew it'd get your hackles up; Hook, Line, Sinker and there's no law against an individual exercising their rights... Now I've answered your question are you going to answer mine buck?

Did you or did you not post members details to law enforcement authorities?
 
echelon1k1 said:
Can you not read? I knew it'd get your hackles up; Hook, Line, Sinker and there's no law against an individual exercising their rights...
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actually, your country has some pretty strong laws against you preaching the type of holocaust denial that was found in the group of "like minded" white supremacists you joined (twice).

you already admitted in your first reply that your point in joining the group was not to "get my hackles up".

so the question remains:*why did you join a "like minded" group of white nationalists and holocaust deniers (twice)?

echelon1k1 said:
Did you or did you not post members details to law enforcement authorities?
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no, and i'll thank you to stop trying to change the subject.
 
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