We're all going to die! (astroid)

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Russia may send spacecraft to knock away asteroid
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By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV, Associated Press Writer Vladimir Isachenkov, Associated Press Writer – 34 mins ago
MOSCOW – Russia is considering sending a spacecraft to a large asteroid to knock it off its path and prevent its collision with Earth — a collision NASA considers highly unlikely — the head of the country's space agency said Wednesday.
Anatoly Perminov said the space agency will hold a meeting soon to assess a mission to Apophis, telling Golos Rossii radio that it would invite NASA, the European Space Agency, the Chinese space agency and others to join the project once it is finalized.
When the 270-meter (885-foot) asteroid was first discovered in 2004, astronomers estimated the chances of it smashing into Earth in its first flyby in 2029 were as high as 1-in-37, but have since lowered their estimate.
Further studies ruled out the possibility of an impact in 2029, when the asteroid is expected to come no closer than 18,300 miles (29,450 kilometers) above Earth's surface, but they indicated a small possibility of a hit on subsequent encounters.
In October, NASA lowered the odds that Apophis could hit Earth in 2036 from a 1-in-45,000 as earlier thought to a 1-in-250,000 chance after researchers recalculated the asteroid's path. It said another close encounter in 2068 will involve a 1-in-330,000 chance of impact.
"It wasn't anything to worry about before. Now it's even less so," said Steve Chesley, an astronomer with the Near Earth Object Program at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Without mentioning NASA conclusions, Perminov said that he heard from a scientist that Apophis is getting closer and may hit the planet. "I don't remember exactly, but it seems to me it could hit the Earth by 2032," Perminov said.
"People's lives are at stake. We should pay several hundred million dollars and build a system that would allow to prevent a collision, rather than sit and wait for it to happen and kill hundreds of thousands of people," Perminov said.
Scientists have long theorized about asteroid deflection strategies. Some have proposed sending a probe to circle around a dangerous asteroid to gradually change its trajectory. Others suggested sending a spacecraft to collide with the asteroid and alter its momentum, or using nuclear weapons to hit it.
Perminov wouldn't disclose any details of the project, saying they still need to be worked out. But he said the mission wouldn't require any nuclear explosions.
Hollywood action films "Deep Impact" and "Armageddon," have featured space missions scrambling to avoid catastrophic collisions. In both movies space crews use nuclear bombs in an attempt to prevent collisions.
"Calculations show that it's possible to create a special purpose spacecraft within the time we have, which would help avoid the collision without destroying it (the asteroid) and without detonating any nuclear charges," Perminov said. "The threat of collision can be averted."
Boris Shustov, the director of the Institute of Astronomy under the Russian Academy of Sciences, hailed Perminov's statement as a signal that officials had come to recognize the danger posed by asteroids.
"Apophis is just a symbolic example, there are many other dangerous objects we know little about," he said, according to RIA Novosti news agency.

It's ok though... The Russians are going to save us :hump:
 
Every year I hear about a new asteroid thats gonna hit us this is probably just some bullshit also
 
"People's lives are at stake. We should pay several hundred million dollars and build a system that would allow to prevent a collision, rather than sit and wait for it to happen and kill hundreds of thousands of people,"

So the Russians are going to kill hundreds of thousands of people, waiting for the asteroid to come, or they're going to spend millions of dollars...

I guess the question now is how much is the average person worth?
 
I'd trust NASA over the Russians. In any case, it's not hard to cause an astroid NOT to hit earth. A simple orbiting satellite around an astroid will cause it's course to change a few inches a year. These inches add up to hundreds of miles causing it to miss earth. Also knocking an astroid with an impact (not an explosion) will do the same thing. Kind of like what we did to the moon. I'm guessing the Russian just want to test this technique out to see if it really works as it's only theory right now. I can't blame them. We may have to do something like this to actually save our asses one of these days. My physic book was say every 1000 years there is a 1 in a million chance that an astroid or other astro-body will destroy the earth. Hell it's happened 5 times already! Life on Earth has been wiped out 4 out of the those 5 times.

Whats troubling about both these techniques is that it is theorized an astroid can get caught in an unbound orbit around Earth getting sling shot faster towards Earth on it's second orbit around. People can only guess what happens with modeling but thats only so accurate.
 
What did we do to the moon?
We smacked it really hard and did a spectral analysis off the dust that flew off the surface we tested for Water, other molecules, and elements that may better man kind. We also collected samples too.
Don't worry the moon won't ever hit the Earth however it may sling shot away from the planet in....a few billion years!
 
its only > 1000 feet long


the absoloute most damage this could cause is maybe .... MAYBE a 1.5 mile crater, and a very large explosion
 
its only > 1000 feet long


the absoloute most damage this could cause is maybe .... MAYBE a 1.5 mile crater, and a very large explosion

You are correct an impact crater is usually 10 times the size of the astroid. So it would be around a 1.5 to 2 mile impact crater (in width) Still that would be pretty devastating if it hit land. Imagine the amount of dust that would bring up. It would most likely fuck up a few hundred to thousand mile radius. Considering something like 70% of the planet is water it will most likely hit an ocean.

In any case you need something like 5-10 miles in width to really fuck up the planet for a year or two (in terms of blackening the sky). A sky blackening will kill most of Earth's life because plants die, less oxygen is made, and less food is produced by primary producers. The astroid that killed the dinosaurs was only 6.5 to 7 miles wide. The impact didn't kill them the blackening of the sky killed most of them off in less than a year.

You need something even larger than that to totally destroy the earth. Kind of like the impact that split the young molten Earth into two creating our moon.
 
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