TrynaGroSumShyt
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gigabud produces alot of fluffy buds. the pic i showed u was under my 400watt being shared by 7 ladies.. given the circumstances she did pretty good.
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Green Cross
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If my gigabud puts out fluffy buds I'll kill her and her clones
These lights should produce rock hard nugs, but the yield won't be all that. I'm not too concerned with yield though. HPS is supposed to produce higher yields, while MH is supposed to produce better quality. We'll see; maybe I'll use HPS in flower next round, just to do a comparison. I was bending fan leaves down today, and snapped 2 on poor gigabud. She's kind of fragile I guess, but when I found her she was 1" from the glass. Bad gigabud!
LOL If I get an oz off her it'll be a miracle, but I can't wait to see what the smoke is like. She smells like a pine cone dipped in sugar 
TrynaGroSumShyt
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lol.. i always said mine smelled like grapefruit.
Green Cross
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I noticed that too. My unknown indica totally smells like grapefruit, in fact all my plants seemed to smell like grapefruit last time I trimmed them. It seems to be a dominant smell of fresh growing herb. but now I'm getting berry, skunk, and pine undertones. The blue moonshine is smelling like berries already.
Resin is flowing
Today I'm working on building an organic mix. I just can't see paying $$$ for someone else to mix common ingredients like fish emulsion, guano, peat, compost, worm casings, and pearlite.
Here's what I have so far:
One part each
1. Moo Doo composted cow manure
2. Mushroom compost
3. Canadian sphagnum peat-moss
4. Pearlite
5. Good top soil
6. 2 bags Earthworm casings
7. 1 package High nitrogen sea bird or desert bat guano (optional) or just skip this ingredient and foliar feed with Alaska fish emulsion (5-1-1) (also contains micro nutrients).
8. 1 package Green sand (0-0-3) supplement contains silica, iron, magnesium, and 30 other trace minerals)
9. 4 - 8 cups Hydrated lime (to raise PH and provide calcium)
I figure I can make 500 quarts (20 cubic ft) of very high quality potting mix for half the price of Fox farms ocean forest which is like $20 for 1.5 cubic feet, at my local hydro store.
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Green that is sounding good for a mix. I have something to throw out for you to consider in your mix, maybe try it in enough for one container. Instead of the hydrated lime I use wood ash, needs to be hardwood ash. If you have some available to you. I have used that all my life, being on a farm it was always readily available and a great byproduct of cleaning the place. It will raise your ph a little just like the lime and provide some calcium and nitrogen along with all kinds of micro organisms. Also a plus to it is that it is readily available to the soil and your plant.I noticed that too. My unknown indica totally smells like grapefruit, in fact all my plants seemed to smell like grapefruit last time I trimmed them. It seems to be a dominant smell of fresh growing herb. but now I'm getting berry, skunk, and pine undertones. The blue moonshine is smelling like berries already.
Resin is flowing
Today I'm working on building an organic mix. I just can't see paying $$$ for someone else to mix common ingredients like fish emulsion, guano, peat, compost, worm casings, and pearlite.
Here's what I have so far:
One part each
1. Moo Doo composted cow manure
2. Mushroom compost
3. Canadian sphagnum peat-moss
4. Pearlite
5. Good top soil
6. 2 bags Earthworm casings
7. 1 package High nitrogen sea bird or desert bat guano (optional) or just skip this ingredient and foliar feed with Alaska fish emulsion (5-1-1) (also contains micro nutrients).
8. 1 package Green sand (0-0-3) supplement contains silica, iron, magnesium, and 30 other trace minerals)
9. 4 - 8 cups Hydrated lime (to raise PH and provide calcium)
I figure I can make 500 quarts (20 cubic ft) of very high quality potting mix for half the price of Fox farms ocean forest which is like $20 for 1.5 cubic feet, at my local hydro store.
Just a thought for you...Good mixing
Green Cross
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Good thought. I actually use a bit of charcoal ash mixed with pearlite in the bottom of my containers (for drainage). also keeps the bottom of the container from getting nasty. I wish I could make my own, but local ordinances, and no fireplace make that impossible. Better yet I wish I could make wood ash and sell it for $10 for a little bag
TrynaGroSumShyt
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.. have you read this? its from tga breeder subcool
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil.html ..
although yours looks like a good mix.. i just wanted to throw you some options.
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil.html ..
although yours looks like a good mix.. i just wanted to throw you some options.
skunkman98536
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green!
Everything is looking/coming together nicley.. so did u just tie em'?
J/w trying to get a generalization of how everything is going ur way bro!
Everything is looking/coming together nicley.. so did u just tie em'?
J/w trying to get a generalization of how everything is going ur way bro!
bennybueno
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just gorgeous!!!
Green Cross
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Thats a good organic mix, but roots is probably pricey, and dried blood has more tendencies to burn. I do like the idea of mixing it on a tarp (indoors). I wish I had a 55 gal barrel I could fill with all the ingredients, seal it, and roll it around to mix, but no space for that.
Im surprised you noticed that skunkman. Yes, I continue to keep tying these bitches down so they dont crowd eathother, and the light penetrates all the bud sites. Very low LST though
I did the same with the unknown Indica today after they had their morning tea
- and I trimmed the lower bud sites, to keep forcing the tops. Thanks for the props Guys
jimisimmortal
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pretty good setup you got goin on there mate,well thought out.I see your going the organic route and making your own nutes,good shit.Heres what i use for mine,its the best potency mix ive found so far: about half of it is dirt from my garden,which was mostly clay when i moved here but has broken down into rich black soil after 3 years growing veges in there and applying compost and lime, about quarter of it is organic seed raising mix which is about half perlite and makes for good drainage,then about quarter compost, thats all it gets no foliar feed,just before it starts to bud i add a thick layer(bout 3/4 inch in a 30 litre) of bone dust that i grind up myself ,these are canon bones(femure) from cows that have been bashed up to get the marrow out,and then boiled for 8-12 hours with a bunch of water changes to get every last drip of fat out and then the are dryed in the sun untill it has bleached em white,then crushed up and powdered(ive got a whole sack full of em already done to use for bone carving) this provides my P content and makes for big sticky kick arse buds, ive learnt over the years that altough giving them nitrogen in the veg phase will make huge plants,they dont end up yeilding as much and are mainly leafs e.g 12-15ft plants that yeild a pound or less vs my outdoor last season which was slightly higher than my waist(mainly cos it was planted 3 months after the start of the season) and it yeilded 9 colas all over a 0z
Green Cross
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Bumping this up because it's a must read for all organic growers! Very informative thread
Thanks TrynaGro
Green Cross
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Welcome jimisimmortal, your organic mix is close to mine; Topsoil, manure, seedling mix, pearlite and peat). The only thing I'm adding is this mushroom compost I found that looks like it's full of organics (compost) - light and airy.
Bone meal is definitely an excellent source of P, and cheaper than guano. Powdered bone sounds excellent, but how do you grind it?
Green Cross
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Sometimes I think I may put too much thought and research into all that I do, but I just came across this very informative piece concerning mushroom compost
"Chemical residues
Mushroom farmers have major problems with flies and fungus gnats in their growing facilities and spray regularly with such products as methoprene, cyromazine and diflubenzuron, Dimlin and Diazanon.
There are also fungal infections that can wipe out a mushroom crop and require control by such chemicals as benomyl, thiabendazole and chlorothalonil.
Naturally, if treated with any chemicals or having used any kind of artificial nutrient to create a composting action, mushroom compost will not qualify for use on certified organic farms.
Mushroom compost does not qualify for use on certified organic farms unless it too is certified.
Read more:" http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com/mushroom-compost.html#ixzz0MIM0hGRc
So Mushroom compost is off my list and It's kind of a shame, because the stuff looks great, and I was looking forward to using it.
"Chemical residues
Mushroom farmers have major problems with flies and fungus gnats in their growing facilities and spray regularly with such products as methoprene, cyromazine and diflubenzuron, Dimlin and Diazanon.
There are also fungal infections that can wipe out a mushroom crop and require control by such chemicals as benomyl, thiabendazole and chlorothalonil.
Naturally, if treated with any chemicals or having used any kind of artificial nutrient to create a composting action, mushroom compost will not qualify for use on certified organic farms.
Mushroom compost does not qualify for use on certified organic farms unless it too is certified.
Read more:" http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com/mushroom-compost.html#ixzz0MIM0hGRc
So Mushroom compost is off my list and It's kind of a shame, because the stuff looks great, and I was looking forward to using it.
jimisimmortal
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with an angle grinder of course,lol. im a 'make do' kinda guy,unless i only need enuf for a little cfl plant then i use a dremel,ive never tried mushroom compost but was planing on giving it a shot this coming season,so will be watching with interest,i was reading on a grow your own mushrooms website http://www.14u.co.nz/agdet.htm its got on there the ingredient to make it to grow your own mushrooms,which i want to do also cos i eat heaps of the little f'ers,that stuff should be really well decomposed, i bet it works awesome
jimisimmortal
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just read you next post,grow your own shrooms
Green Cross
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Oh I have one of those! LOL The dust must be incredible
Dr. Greenhorn
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nice journal
Green Cross
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Thanks Dr. Greenhorn. I appreciate that coming from a veteran like yourself. kiss-assnice journal
checkout Greenhorns budding beauties
Dr. Greenhorn
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hey no problem man...keep it green