water questions

Gquebed

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I've been using tap water and a chorine removing agent and have not had a problem Then I moved down the street and I have been having all sorts of necrosis problems and bad starts with seedlings. After, a lot of trouble-shooting I can only point to the water. It has to be the problem. But how different can the water be from the house I was in to the house I'm in now, when I literally moved just a couple blocks down???

It's hard water, but not incredibly... 200ppm


Anyway... it has been said the easiest way to remove chlorine is to just let it sit overnight and off-gas. Does anybody actually do that?

And if so, how do you keep it aeriated or oxygenated well enough? Is it enough to just pour the water back and forth between a couple buckets a few times to oxygenate?

I was thinking of going to RO. But...will that take care of the chlorine problem? And with that RO water sitting in a res...how to keep it oxygenated? is the bucket pouring back and forth enough? (I don't use much at a time. Maybe 10 gals per watering and I do the pouring back and forth anyway to mix the nutes really well).
 
You should be good if you let the water sit for 24hrs. You shouldn't have to pour it back and fourth. If that still dosnt work try RO. Good luck.
 
Last I looked little oxygen molecules were sticking to that big green Hydrogen molecule, so why bother aerating water..? tho many noobs swear by it, a water wand is what you need,
allow the water to sit overnight or better have a constantly filled watering can outgassing 24/7. at each use refill, just ask my cat ...it only drinks from my water can...lol
I don't think chlorine is your issue here and yes plants do need some too, if in doubr flush with a volume of quality store bought water, 3 times the volume of the pot allow to drain over night no nutes until this is resolved ...good luck

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I did do the flush with some RO water from the store. It seems to have stopped the necrosis...

And it has since had a feeding using that same RO, nutes at 50%.

Im afraid to use the tap water again thi...this is the second grow in a row that ive had problems...

If not the chlorine then maybe the solids in the water are just more salt than anything else and i am locking out on it.... i dunno...
 
I did do the flush with some RO water from the store. It seems to have stopped the necrosis...

And it has since had a feeding using that same RO, nutes at 50%.

Im afraid to use the tap water again thi...this is the second grow in a row that ive had problems...

If not the chlorine then maybe the solids in the water are just more salt than anything else and i am locking out on it.... i dunno...
you won't actually know the result for a few days ..you can flush with shit water, to wash out them shit salts that have built up, just ensure the last 2-3 flushes are of good quality water, and that the oxygen gets to re attach to the rootlets( in other words ...allow to drain) in a dim place for 6-8 hours, then place back in the grow lamp area
and allow me to remind you
NO NUTES UNTIL YOU SEE A POSITIVE IMPROVEMENT

thank you
 
you won't actually know the result for a few days ..you can flush with shit water, to wash out them shit salts that have built up, just ensure the last 2-3 flushes are of good quality water, and that the oxygen gets to re attach to the rootlets( in other words ...allow to drain) in a dim place for 6-8 hours, then place back in the grow lamp area
and allow me to remind you
NO NUTES UNTIL YOU SEE A POSITIVE IMPROVEMENT

thank you
Thanks yet again for the help :)
 
I heard that the substance found in water is chloramine which is supposedly a more stable compound than chlorine making it less likely to bubble off. After a little research on the e.p.a.'s website i found that to be true in most cases.
 
I have the pre filters that remove chlorides and chloramines. When choosing filters it's best to go with the aquarium side of products. Fish are very sensitive to chems. If you want PURE water then go the route the fish hobbiests go
 
I heard that the substance found in water is chloramine which is supposedly a more stable compound than chlorine making it less likely to bubble off. After a little research on the e.p.a.'s website i found that to be true in most cases.
you have any desire for a fishtank?
it'll clean all that out for ya, and add fishwaste to the water as well.
Awesome stuff to use.
I used to live in an area that used municipal water, and it was heavily chlorinated, both with chloromines as well as regular chlorine.
a fish tank will clean that up , no problem
 
I believe letting water sit for tough 24 hours will remove chlorine but not chloramine. To oxygenate your reservoir you can get a double hose aquarium pump, and toss a couple of air stones in there.
 
If you.live where I do, milwaukee. Ud have a above average reading of floride, and plants don't use floride at all. Ultimatley the floride levels will rise within the substrate and well, ... that don't flying my book. 0ppm is the way to go. You can always build and feel confident of recorded values.
Not to mention the chlorides milwaukee adds is excessive. I go through DI resin like it going out of style, even after it been hit by 3 RO filters. But my pure to waste is 3:1 because of the way I have the lines routed. It produces more pure water, but costs me in resin. RO membranes have back flush kits to remove residuals. I get 2 months per DI resin change. Even if I slack on the resin change, my ppm doesn't go above 20, and that's when my resin is completly shot.
 
I believe letting water sit for tough 24 hours will remove chlorine but not chloramine. To oxygenate your reservoir you can get a double hose aquarium pump, and toss a couple of air stones in there.

I want to like your post but each individual grower should pull a report of their municipal water quality. It's public access. This gives You a base line and a guide on how to proceed with water purification/or sourcing.
 
Yep my system uses chloramine too... Bubbling or letting it set did nothing to remove it. What works for me is using water collected from my dehumidifier and if it's very dry I have to run a few gal through my RO unit hooked to my backyard hose. If it rains I put out a bucket to collect it too. No idea what I'm gonna do in the dead of winter except gathering & storing as much water as I have room for.
 
Yep my system uses chloramine too... Bubbling or letting it set did nothing to remove it. What works for me is using water collected from my dehumidifier and if it's very dry I have to run a few gal through my RO unit hooked to my backyard hose. If it rains I put out a bucket to collect it too. No idea what I'm gonna do in the dead of winter except gathering & storing as much water as I have room for.

Just be careful of copper levels in the water that comes out of the dehumidifier. I've heard mixes stories on it but have never confirmed anything myself. Although I have thought of it, and it's an excellent way of recycling humidity that would normally be lost through ventilation and filters.
 
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