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demarko

demarko

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looks pretty good for ffof and tap!!! :clap:
I have been wondering about that... gonna try it out on 1 of mines. Im starting to think buying nutes is just a waste and im still learning all about ROLS and other organic methods. Seems to me most bottled nutes all work the same, its all about the grower and the skills.
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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demarko said:
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looks pretty good for ffof and tap!!! :clap:
I have been wondering about that... gonna try it out on 1 of mines. Im starting to think buying nutes is just a waste and im still learning all about ROLS and other organic methods. Seems to me most bottled nutes all work the same, its all about the grower and the skills.[/QUOTE]
yes, i agree, I spent a small amount and got some general hydroponics bloom and veg nutes, but when I added them to my ffof after the 4th week, just like all the experts said I should do,, it didnt take long for salts to build up and I went into nitrogen tox fax and got the dredded claw on the tip of my leafs,,, thankfully this was figured out really fast and went back to water only that grow and I made it to harvest,,
Then came the grow I posted above, i set out from the start to just use tap water, i did ad some happy frog organic nutes to the ffof and some garden lyme and mixed it all together in a wheel barrow, filled the containers and then it was water only for 12 weeks, worked like a charm man,,, its all I am going to do from now on,,, no expensive nutes,, no mixed of water,, no adding ph up or down,, just put water in the jug,, carry it to the plants and water till you see a little bit of run off,,, not much,, leave all that good stuff in the dirt,, I watered every 3 days the whole way thru,, ,ezzy breezy dude
 
demarko

demarko

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It funny you brung up the nitrogen tox I believe I just saved my girls from that last night.Im in veg. I used GH organics the first week second week just water on my third week I went back to give it nutes and a day or so after there it was crawling leaves and lime green yellowish new growth twisting and what not I flushed them now they are back happy but definitely next grow im going your route simple and plain...

Thank for the help!

Photos are after flushIMG_20160318_100714.jpg IMG_20160318_100813.jpg
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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demarko said:
It funny you brung up the nitrogen tox I believe I just saved my girls from that last night.Im in veg. I used GH organics the first week second week just water on my third week I went back to give it nutes and a day or so after there it was crawling leaves and lime green yellowish new growth twisting and what not I flushed them now they are back happy but definitely next grow im going your route simple and plain...

Thank for the help!

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wow,, there is that hook man,, you nailed it, those nutes just build up salts , that FFOF soil has all the good stuff in it already, and the beauty of organics is that plants take what they need and want and leave the rest in the soil,, for the next watering,,
here is the stuff I mixed into the ffof soil,, its made by them, and the instructions on the bag give the ratio for ffof right in the instructions,, couldnt be easier,, mixed it right in before planting, and I also added the garden lyme,, it adds all the neccasary cal mag they need , and then just water the whole ride,,, not only just water,, right out of the tap, ffof,, especailly with the lyme added has a super ph buffering strength,,,
here is the stuff i added
https://www.joeshydro.com/happy-frog-fruit-and-flower-4-lb.html?fee=10&fep=26393&utm_source=googleproducts&utm_medium=feed&utm_content=cse&utm_term=9HF-HFFF408&gclid=CI3J_tmPy8sCFc5hfgodMLsBnw
http://www.burpee.com/gardening-supplies/vegetable-fertilizers/organic-garden-lime-prod022801.html?gclid=COKBlOOQy8sCFQdufgodsn4NVA&cid=PPC

i have enough ffof in the garage now for 2 more grows, I grow in 3 gallon fabric pots, really coohappy-frog-fruit-and-flower-4-lb-412.jpg prod022801.jpg
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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that happy frog is a dry mix, it mixes right into the ffof dirt,, i did it in a wheel barrow , but you could do it right in the container too,, using table spoons,, its got bat shit in it and all the other things ffof has already,, it just pumps it up with even more , then it makes the 12 weeks,,, the lyme with its cal mag prevents def in those areas down the road especially
oh and that bag of happy frog and that bag of lime,, going to last years,, it barely dented the bags on the last grow
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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demarko said:
It funny you brung up the nitrogen tox I believe I just saved my girls from that last night.Im in veg. I used GH organics the first week second week just water on my third week I went back to give it nutes and a day or so after there it was crawling leaves and lime green yellowish new growth twisting and what not I flushed them now they are back happy but definitely next grow im going your route simple and plain...

Thank for the help!

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here is the grow that clawed on me,, the grow before last one,,, the 2 plants you see here are Donkey Kong strain,, I love the smoke,, great daytime weed,,
any ways,, this is ffof but i added the liquid general h ydroponics and got the claw nitrogen tox,, went to water only the rest of the grow and it got well,, but the slight damage was done,, the leafs turned yellow in the last couple of weeks from it,, but the buds turned out goodIMG_8400.JPG
 
demarko

demarko

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Tim Fox said:
here is the grow that clawed on me,, the grow before last one,,, the 2 plants you see here are Donkey Kong strain,, I love the smoke,, great daytime weed,,
any ways,, this is ffof but i added the liquid general h ydroponics and got the claw nitrogen tox,, went to water only the rest of the grow and it got well,, but the slight damage was done,, the leafs turned yellow in the last couple of weeks from it,, but the buds turned out goodView attachment 3635193
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Oh yea you definitely saved those girls I love the size of them. Im gonna build me a scrog in the next couple of days im seeing its the way to go
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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Tim Fox said:
here is the grow that clawed on me,, the grow before last one,,, the 2 plants you see here are Donkey Kong strain,, I love the smoke,, great daytime weed,,
any ways,, this is ffof but i added the liquid general h ydroponics and got the claw nitrogen tox,, went to water only the rest of the grow and it got well,, but the slight damage was done,, the leafs turned yellow in the last couple of weeks from it,, but the buds turned out goodView attachment 3635193
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funny thing was,, this grow harvest weight was 5.1 ounces dry,, but I grew under 108 watts of cree cobs ,, 2 cxa3070's,, it was amazing to see what 108 watts could do,, inspite of the nitrogen tox issue

Edit : yes I just replied to myself,, see what Gorilla Glue does to a person
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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demarko said:
Those are some cool lights I like how you can build any setup you want.
How long did you veg?
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here is a picture of my current 4 cree cob panel i built,,, pulling 208 watts ,
both of those grows were from clones,, the donkey kong they were teenagers, when i got them, i think i vegged them another 18 days ,, but the bigger grow under the 4 cobs those clones were smallish,, i vegged them for 4 weeks, my box is 3x2 foot,, didnt take long to fill it with 3 plants going into stretchIMG_8598.JPG
 
demarko

demarko

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Edit : yes I just replied to myself,, see what Gorilla Glue does to a person[/QUOTE]

Lol yea that gorrilla glue is a fine strain. Im hopping my 24k comes out good. Its been a few years for me but my last grow was some skywalker came out pretty dank. I used the ffof and ff nutes.

Thanks to your insite ill be using the ffof the way you insisted.

Those lights :fire: I bet your electricity bill bearly budges lol cant wait to see whatyou come up with next
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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demarko said:
Edit : yes I just replied to myself,, see what Gorilla Glue does to a person
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Lol yea that gorrilla glue is a fine strain. Im hopping my 24k comes out good. Its been a few years for me but my last grow was some skywalker came out pretty dank. I used the ffof and ff nutes.

Thanks to your insite ill be using the ffof the way you insisted.

Those lights :fire: I bet your electricity bill bearly budges lol cant wait to see whatyou come up with next[/QUOTE]
your right about that, with my big 6" fan dailed way way down low, and that led cob light, i really didnt see any electricity rise, shoot the bedroom heaters use a bunch more than the grow box does,, lol @ insisted!!
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Since the poster before me quoted your older post that ask about water only grows. Here is mine. Is a small 2x4 cab with 432w t5 with a mix of agromax bulbs including UV.
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It is a humus base with sand, alfalfa pellets, kelp, oyster shell, worm castings, compost, espoma garden tone, cow and donkey manure. A moisture mix of peat, coco and something else I don't remember. The compost gets everything from garden leftovers and stalks to chicken manure. Some other things I'm sure, I don't have my list handy.
 
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whitebb2727 said:
Since the poster before me quoted your older post that ask about water only grows. Here is mine. Is a small 2x4 cab with 432w t5 with a mix of agromax bulbs including UV.
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It is a humus base with sand, alfalfa pellets, kelp, oyster shell, worm castings, compost, espoma garden tone, cow and donkey manure. A moisture mix of peat, coco and something else I don't remember. The compost gets everything from garden leftovers and stalks to chicken manure. Some other things I'm sure, I don't have my list handy.
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happy ladies there white boy,great looking garden
 
dabbindylan

dabbindylan

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Dr.pecker mold restintant strains are ones that useally test high in L-crethine oil....citrox strain is the most restiant to all forms of mold n pm/powder mildew
 
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