Water only from seed to harvest soil recipe

Diesel0889

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I apologize if there is a thread like this but I was hoping some members here with real organic know how would mind sharing some water only soil recipes.

I have used super soil before with great results and may use it again this run but would like some input from others first. I have started buying amendments to build my soil. I plan to buy everything on subs super soil recipe with a few added amendments also. I have always had the BEST luck with roots organic original but I am not against useing fox farm ocean forest as I have used that for a base In The past as well and was happy with it. Also my other possibility for my base is nector of the gods #4 mix and currently thinking I may use that as I have been told by a few people that it is more consistent and stable mix with a little more love put in it than roots or fox farm but I don't know.

I am not an organic pro by any means but I think this will be the route I take from this point fowred growing my stash and the old lady likes it much better organic so happy wife happy life right. For the most part I have only done subs super soil and years ago did the whole Epsoma tomato tone lol. I did change it up a few grows based of of subs recipe but based it of his work.

Any soil recipe that any of you organic pros here would like to share that you have used seed to harvest with success I would love to hear them. I am all about the teas also so include them if you use them please. Again I apologize if this has been covered but thought this may help me and many others down the road that want to dive ALL the way into organics. Thank you very much in advance.. Happy growing :bigjoint:
 

Richard Drysift

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If you have some spent soil already and a few amendments it may be easier to just recharge soil you already have on hand with some compost, minerals, and the aforementioned amendments. Building a soil from scratch isn't all that hard either; it's just then you'll need to add/aquire more inputs than you would with an already established soil mix.
I suggest getting this book which really changed my organic game to baller status:
True Living Organics by the Rev...

IMO best thing you can do right now even before you start growing is to start up a worm bin. Compost is like the workhorse of your soil mix and fresh worm castings are the best for cannabis. Free EWC for life is a very good benefit. You can literally feed your plants on kitchen waste. EWC is the base for most compost teas and soil mixes.
 

swedsteven

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Half promix or old soil half compost
Bio-live 5-4-2 1 cup each 5 gallon soil
Half cup of volcanic rock dust
Half cup dolomite lime powder
And top feed guano or bird shit
I use acti-sol hen ...4-6-8 at 3 week flowering
 

Diesel0889

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If you have some spent soil already and a few amendments it may be easier to just recharge soil you already have on hand with some compost, minerals, and the aforementioned amendments. Building a soil from scratch isn't all that hard either; it's just then you'll need to add/aquire more inputs than you would with an already established soil mix.
I suggest getting this book which really changed my organic game to baller status:
True Living Organics by the Rev...

IMO best thing you can do right now even before you start growing is to start up a worm bin. Compost is like the workhorse of your soil mix and fresh worm castings are the best for cannabis. Free EWC for life is a very good benefit. You can literally feed your plants on kitchen waste. EWC is the base for most compost teas and soil mixes.

I do have a worm bin man I am a huge fishing family so we have plenty on hand lol. I am SO SO happy you said the name of that book. I read about it a while back, wrote it down and lost my notes. I plan to buy it next weekend.

I have accuiered some amendments in the last few days: bone meal, crab meal, kelp meal, humid acid, Epsom salt, fish bone meal and oyster shell. I also grabbed xtreme mykos and azos as well but I am not sure on the azos because I'm not sure it is omri listed. I also plan to pick up this week: blood meal, azomite, alfalfa meal, dolomite lime ( not sure powdered I think?), green sand, high phosphorous bat guano.

I have done organics I few times like I said but based of others work maybe slightly tweeking it. (Subcool mix) and had great results with it. I prefer taste smell etc. And so does the old lady so it looks like I am destined to learn more than I currently know. I will buy revs book very soon and read up. It looks like it may be a minute before i move as my house I was buying fell through. Due to that I think it's only fitting that I collect what I need and a few trash cans or totes and mix a batch up.

I also picked up raw humid acid and bio ag humic acid (fulvic acid) for folier sprays etc. Can anyone tell me if the raw humic acid is Ok? I was told it was fine to use to mix a soil but can't be sure so... the bio-ag I guess is a fulvic they label as humic acid due to not having a test for it on the East coast or something...

Anything posted here on this thread I use I will give credit where it's due. I DO NOT take credit for Someone else's work. Anything anyone has to offer is appreciated. Happy growing
 

Diesel0889

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Can anyone tell me if the raw brand (Water soluble) humic acid would serve the same purpose as say down to earth granular humic acid or should I go with down to earth brand as that's what I have always used in the past.
 

Richard Drysift

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Humic acid is good in a SS mix; the brand name doesn't matter just don't add too much. It may pull down the ph for awhile after hydrating the soil; just give it a month or so to normalize and you'll have no problems.
I use mykos extreme as well. It's good for sprinkling into the hole when transplanting. The myco must be in direct contact with the roots so place the root ball right on top of the granular myco when potting up. It is safe for living soils.
 

WayFarGone

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Drysift, is that Mykos from xtreme gardening? I've been using Earth Juice Rooters Myco... but I've been wondering if there was something better.
 

Richard Drysift

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I've used a few different brands of granular mycorrhizae over the years: generic white label, mykos xtreme, and great white. They all work basically the same; the Rev suggests using great white because it has several varieties of fungi not contained in other brands like trichoderma but it's also very pricey. Mykos xtreme seems to give the most bang for the buck but the generic label brand from Amazon does the same thing.
 

Greenthumbs256

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Here is my mix I'm also ROLS, but I do use compost teas and top dressing throughout the grow! I make my own ewc for tea and for top dressing!
Not listed below I also use nitrogen bat guano, and added back in the dolomite lime it seems that I still need it with my mix! I also use azos and mykos for transplanting!CM180729-003541001.jpg

Ignore the black numbers that's just for me!
 

WayFarGone

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I've used a few different brands of granular mycorrhizae over the years: generic white label, mykos xtreme, and great white. They all work basically the same; the Rev suggests using great white because it has several varieties of fungi not contained in other brands like trichoderma but it's also very pricey. Mykos xtreme seems to give the most bang for the buck but the generic label brand from Amazon does the same thing.
Thanks for the info, I'm due for a restock on a cpl of things and I think I'm gonna give the mykos xtreme a try.
 

Diesel0889

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I have been very busy but to all who have posted above... thank you this thread is turning into what I was, lots of good info.
Humic acid is good in a SS mix; the brand name doesn't matter just don't add too much. It may pull down the ph for awhile after hydrating the soil; just give it a month or so to normalize and you'll have no problems.
I use mykos extreme as well. It's good for sprinkling into the hole when transplanting. The myco must be in direct contact with the roots so place the root ball right on top of the granular myco when potting up. It is safe for living soils.
Thanks for the reply. The reason I was asking is it's a water soluble type not granular type like down to earth as I have used mixing super soil I the past. I wasn't sure if the raw would work due to it being water soluble and turning straight to liquid when water hits it. The soil will be sitting for prob min. 2 to 3 months anyway so it will have time to take down a bit. Possibly may sit longer than that I just want to make sure I have a very well made and broken down mix by the time I use it and didn't want my stupidity useing the wrong type of humic to screw me as I have not used it before but it was recommended to me as the better choice of the 2.


Here is my mix I'm also ROLS, but I do use compost teas and top dressing throughout the grow! I make my own ewc for tea and for top dressing!
Not listed below I also use nitrogen bat guano, and added back in the dolomite lime it seems that I still need it with my mix! I also use azos and mykos for transplanting!View attachment 4188675

Ignore the black numbers that's just for me!
Thanks man this is exactly what I was hoping this thread to turn into, a shit ton of great organic info and other farmers recipes. Thanks for the reply.

Thank you all I am very grateful and if I use any info or mix posted here by others I will give credit where it is due. By all means keep it coming!
 

Diesel0889

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Here is my mix I'm also ROLS, but I do use compost teas and top dressing throughout the grow! I make my own ewc for tea and for top dressing!
Not listed below I also use nitrogen bat guano, and added back in the dolomite lime it seems that I still need it with my mix! I also use azos and mykos for transplanting!View attachment 4188675

Ignore the black numbers that's just for me!

Also nice how you broke it down as well.. very easy to follow! Happy growing:bigjoint:
 

Diesel0889

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Thanks for the info, I'm due for a restock on a cpl of things and I think I'm gonna give the mykos xtreme a try.
I have mostly used xtreme brand myself with great luck but have also used other brands including great white. For the price difference I can't say I noticed much different between them and agree with Richard drysift best bang for buck is xtreme brand... that being said I take care of a 5x5 and 4x4 these days not a huge room with side by sides to do tests. I don't have the room and opportunity others here do so I would ask around before going off what I said. Richard drysift may know more about the difference between them all...

Anyone use mammoth p?? I have heard it's great shit. Price is steep tho but I don't mind if it is worth it. Also hear it does more if you are not organic.. no idea if that's true.. anyone know I'm curious..
 

Richard Drysift

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I have been very busy but to all who have posted above... thank you this thread is turning into what I was, lots of good info.


Thanks for the reply. The reason I was asking is it's a water soluble type not granular type like down to earth as I have used mixing super soil I the past. I wasn't sure if the raw would work due to it being water soluble and turning straight to liquid when water hits it. The soil will be sitting for prob min. 2 to 3 months anyway so it will have time to take down a bit. Possibly may sit longer than that I just want to make sure I have a very well made and broken down mix by the time I use it and didn't want my stupidity useing the wrong type of humic to screw me as I have not used it before but it was recommended to me as the better choice of the 2.




Thanks man this is exactly what I was hoping this thread to turn into, a shit ton of great organic info and other farmers recipes. Thanks for the reply.

Thank you all I am very grateful and if I use any info or mix posted here by others I will give credit where it is due. By all means keep it coming!
I added humic acid I bought from kelp 4 less to my recycling mix a couple years ago and did not notice much of a difference than without it. It is supposed to help absorb N and provide overall plant health but is not really an NPK fertilizer like blood or bone meal is. In high doses it will drop the ph but letting it set for awhile with some compost and crushed oyster shell added in will help normalize the ph. Just 30 days should be enough but even longer won't hurt.
 

Diesel0889

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I added humic acid I bought from kelp 4 less to my recycling mix a couple years ago and did not notice much of a difference than without it. It is supposed to help absorb N and provide overall plant health but is not really an NPK fertilizer like blood or bone meal is. In high doses it will drop the ph but letting it set for awhile with some compost and crushed oyster shell added in will help normalize the ph. Just 30 days should be enough but even longer won't hurt.
Ya i should be good with the raw line then for the humic. Thanks for the reply I appreciate it very much.
 
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