Was Just Listening To Some Conservative Talk Radio.

The recession ended in June 2009.

You can look it up.

Stock Market recovered remarkably. So did the Auto Industry.

Why do righties have to lie when they try to make their points? Don't they know that doing so makes their point moot?

To say that the progressive tax makes us Socialist is saying that we have been a Socialistic Society for almost 100 years. I thought you righties loved America and thought it was the greatest nation on the planet. You sure about that given the fact you think America is Socialistic and has been for 100 years?

Yeah. That's what you are saying.

LOL yeah the economy is doing great, almost 18% real unemployment, but there have been "2 million jobs saved or created". Lol Obamas crew had to come up with their own term "saved or created" some mythical number to say that the economy is not in the shitter. All this at a rate of about $300,000 per job "saved or created" using Obama's own numbers. You people are buffoons.

rush is a fatarse who's money keeps his mouth running. No real common sense, but if I owned my own Jet. I would be cocky & would not wanna hear crap from anyone either

Again, the recession ended in June of 2009.

You can look up that fact if you want.

It's Up To You.

capncash said:

LOL yeah the economy is doing great, almost 18% real unemployment,

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You really have no idea how unemployment numbers are calculated and for what reason, do you? If you want to make claims about jobs data and you dont want to use unemployment, this is what you should be looking at:



18% is just some number you heard, dont run around with it as if it's fact. If 58% of the population is employed that means another 42% are not, right? Why dont we use this number instead of unemployment numbers? Well, you have to consider children and retirees, full time college students, people who aren't looking for work, etc.... That's why even in good economic times, with full employment, only 62-65% of the population is even working; So it doesn't make sense to say unemployment is 42%, either. Once you take all of those factors into account the official unemployment statistic is quite accurate(but I'd still recomend looking at the E ratio as well... they're better together).

Yeah, the recession ended in 2009, look it up...on any liberal rag article or report written by some liberal douchebag. That point is so laughable, I can't believe you took the time to type it. Jesus, you are a colossal douchebag.

I knew every one of you were to cowardly to address the point made about Obama trying to use his own legislation against the Repubs.

Recession over...just ask the NY Times...douchebag.

mame said:

You really have no idea how unemployment numbers are calculated and for what reason, do you? If you want to make claims about jobs data and you dont want to use unemployment, this is what you should be looking at:

18% is just some number you heard, dont run around with it as if it's fact. If 58% of the population is employed that means another 42% are not, right? Why dont we use this number instead of unemployment numbers? Well, you have to consider children and retirees, full time college students, people who aren't looking for work, etc.... That's why even in good economic times, with full employment, only 62-65% of the population is even working; So it doesn't make sense to say unemployment is 42%, either. Once you take all of those factors into account the official unemployment statistic is quite accurate(but I'd still recomend looking at the E ratio as well... they're better together).

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Actually, he is much more accurate than you are. When you take into account people who have given up looking for jobs, people that have dropped off the unemployment benefit roles and people that are working part time because they can't find full time work, the number is currently hovering around 17%. That is the reality of unemployment, regardless of who is in the white house. Just because all the politicians use election friendly numbers instead of real numbers, doesn't mean you have to swallow it.

Put down the cock...put down the cock.

BendBrewer said:

Again, the recession ended in June of 2009.

You can look up that fact if you want.

It's Up To You.

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Really? No not really. I looked it up and what I found was the Treasury Secretary of the USA Timothy Geithner tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that it's a very tough economy. He says that for a lot of people "it's going to feel very hard, harder than anything they've experienced in their lifetime now, for a long time to come."

Do you think you know more about the economy than the Treasury Secretary? Sure, Geithner is a Goldman Sachs weasel, lower than slime, tax dodging, lying POS, but he's still pretty smart when it comes to money.

[video=youtube;cw_outZ4ka4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw_outZ4ka4[/video] He kisses some serious ass.

BendBrewer said:

The recession ended in June 2009.
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Is that when the Depression began?

give me 500 million bucks and i would rant all day about anyone~

BendBrewer said:

He is an uneducated entertainer. What would you expect from someone like that? Rush isn't the problem. The people that think an uneducated entertainer knows anything are the problem.

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that dude looks like an evil lying character in resident evil

NoDrama said:

Really? No not really. I looked it up and what I found was the Treasury Secretary of the USA Timothy Geithner tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that it's a very tough economy. He says that for a lot of people "it's going to feel very hard, harder than anything they've experienced in their lifetime now, for a long time to come."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/10/geithner-says-expect-hard-times-for-long-time-to-come/#ixzz1SE3ilqea
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Do you think you know more about the economy than the Treasury Secretary? Sure, Geithner is a Goldman Sachs weasel, lower than slime, tax dodging, lying POS, but he's still pretty smart when it comes to money.

[video=youtube;cw_outZ4ka4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw_outZ4ka4[/video] He kisses some serious ass.

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olylifter420 said:

that dude looks like an evil lying character in resident evil

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He is a evil lying character in real life too, he is the Secretary of the Treasury Tim Gethner, think he pays his taxes?

mame said:

I'm just really out to see what people think is fair as far as these budget talks go. The Republicans seem to think that even though they know the debt ceiling needs to be raised (I believe it was McConnell who said on TV that "nobody is talking about not raising the debt ceiling") that they can expect something (spending cuts) in exchange for nothing... And they're calling it a compromise... Wouldn't a legitimate compromise involve Democrats conceding spending cuts in exchange for Republicans conceding revenue increases? The Obama plan was less than 20% revenue based... Is that really too much?

3 voters on the poll so far, I know there are more people than that on here!

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Unless I'm mistaken, I think that's what the compromise is. However much we raise the debt ceiling, we cut an equal amount in overall spending. There's plenty of waste out there that can be cut.

lowrider2000 said:

any one who likes or liked Bush is a complete retard............. he ran this country into the ground just cus we got a new president dosent mean that everything gets fixed........i was kinda hoping the another republican would get elected instead of obama so that then you have no one else to blame but yourself......

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I was no fan of Bush myself, but..people voted for change. Obama took us from bad to worse. Is this the change everyone wanted?

BendBrewer said:

Again, the recession ended in June of 2009.

You can look up that fact if you want.

It's Up To You.

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Just because the govt. says it, doesn't mean it's true.
What economic signs show that the recession is over.
Unemployment is going up (there's no such thing as a jobless recovery).
The stimulus package didn't help.

Darrin said:

Just because the govt. says it, doesn't mean it's true.
What economic signs show that the recession is over.
Unemployment is going up (there's no such thing as a jobless recovery).
The stimulus package didn't help.

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are you aware of what a recession is? you may want to go look up the definition.

Darrin said:

Unless I'm mistaken, I think that's what the compromise is. However much we raise the debt ceiling, we cut an equal amount in overall spending. There's plenty of waste out there that can be cut.

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You are mistaken. The Debt ceiling is NOT a bargaining chip; McConnell has said that "nobody is talking about not raising the debt ceiling"... As in, this is something that both sides want. Democrats want revenue and Republicans want cuts, those are the items up for compromise... Giving the Republicans cuts in exchange for a debt ceiling increase is just giving them what they want for nothing, because the Republican leadership has already said that they want to raise the debt ceiling anyway. The Republicans are trying to paint it a different way so they can say they're compromising but in reality they are not. Most Americans, according to recent Gallup polls support a balanced approach of both revenue increases and spending cuts and there is evidence that both can be addressed(both overspending and historically low tax rates as well as unneeded breaks, many serving no economic purpose)... What reason is there not to compromise? A childish pledge "to not raise taxes under any circumstance"? Time to grow up kids, divided government demands compromise.

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You are mistaken. The Debt ceiling is NOT a bargaining chip; McConnell has said that "nobody is talking about not raising the debt ceiling"... As in, this is something that both sides want. Democrats want revenue and Republicans want cuts, those are the items up for compromise... Giving the Republicans cuts in exchange for a debt ceiling increase is just giving them what they want for nothing, because the Republican leadership has already said that they want to raise the debt ceiling anyway. The Republicans are trying to paint it a different way so they can say they're compromising but in reality they are not. Most Americans, according to recent Gallup polls support a balanced approach of both revenue increases and spending cuts and there is evidence that both can be addressed(both overspending and historically low tax rates as well as unneeded breaks, many serving no economic purpose)... What reason is there not to compromise? A childish pledge "to not raise taxes under any circumstance"? Time to grow up kids, divided government demands compromise.

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I would just like to see an elimination of all the wasteful spending that goes on in govt. agencies/programs. That alone would probably take care of the revenue increase without a tax hike. And you're right about unneeded tax breaks (ie, Gen. Electric). Why request more from others when some pay nothing?

UncleBuck said:

are you aware of what a recession is? you may want to go look up the definition.

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How many times have they changed how a recession is measured? LOL

Whats really sad is how conservatives try to put all this on Obama...Reagan, Bush ( both dad and son) has put more debt on this nation ...in fact you would be hard pressed to find a republican president who actually lowered the debt...Never forget your past..you will be bound to repeat it...Republicans talk the talk but their actions show different...numbers don't lie ..people do