Warren or Harris for VP?

Who should be the VP selection for Biden

  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • Kamala Harris

    Votes: 6 50.0%

  • Total voters
    12

CunningCanuk

Well-Known Member
Picking a VP on the basis of minority status kind of sucks
How do you feel about picking a VP based on gender?

I believe having a ticket that represents the diversity of the country is important and wouldn’t characterize that as picking a VP on the bases of minority status.

It’s not like there isn’t a lot of talented women of colour to choose from.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
How do you feel about picking a VP based on gender?

I believe having a ticket that represents the diversity of the country is important and wouldn’t characterize that as picking a VP on the bases of minority status.

It’s not like there isn’t a lot of talented women of colour to choose from.
What I feel is mandatory for Biden's VP selection is that person's ability to step into the position of POTUS seamlessly.
We have too face the fact that Biden is an old man existing in a very dangerous world right now with the Virus infecting millions, even world leaders.
So, I guess what I'm saying is that the VP has a better than even chance of replacing Biden, if only for a short time, and that is a sobering thought.

That's why I'm going for Sen. Warren.

She's a woman (it's about time)
She is a highly respected Senator & experienced with how the things run at the Executive level
She's a Progressive (it's about time)

The others on the list simply won't pull in the moderate/Independent voters we need, and that is vital.
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
What I feel is mandatory for Biden's VP selection is that person's ability to step into the position of POTUS seamlessly.
We have too face the fact that Biden is an old man existing in a very dangerous world right now with the Virus infecting millions, even world leaders.
So, I guess what I'm saying is that the VP has a better than even chance of replacing Biden, if only for a short time, and that is a sobering thought.

That's why I'm going for Sen. Warren.

She's a woman (it's about time)
She is a highly respected Senator & experienced with how the things run at the Executive level
She's a Progressive (it's about time)

The others on the list simply won't pull in the moderate/Independent voters we need, and that is vital.
Isn't she in her seventies too?
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I don't think 81 is necessarily a 'you're going to die' age anymore for people that keep themselves as healthy as Biden has, outside of being in this insane pandemic.

I saw this and think Karen Bass is pretty good choice too, and she has as much experience as Warren. It pumped me up that Biden's VP picking team was still considering women. Makes it harder for Trump's trolls to start their con on smearing them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-karen-bass-is-the-right-pick-for-joe-bidens-vp/2020/07/07/66e9910e-c086-11ea-9fdd-b7ac6b051dc8_story.html
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Today’s racial turmoil, which was detonated by a Minneapolis instance of lethal police behavior toward an African American, is more serious than any since 1992. Then, after the verdict exonerating the police who beat an African American, Rodney King, six days of rioting engulfed a swath of Los Angeles, killing 63 and injuring 2,383. This far exceeded the calamity of 1965, when a traffic stop by a white LAPD officer of an African American driver spiraled into the Watts riots, which over six days killed 34 and injured 1,032.

Both conflagrations occurred largely in what is now the congressional district represented by Karen Bass, an African American Democrat now in her fifth term. Her public career, which has been shaped by her district’s memories of both disasters, suits her to be Joe Biden’s vice-presidential selection. Her impeccably progressive credentials would soothe her party’s fermenting left wing. Her even-keeled disposition — “She’s not someone who bristles,” says an admirer who has “never heard her raise her voice” — would appeal to the large majority of Americans who have had a surfeit of bristling from both ends of the political spectrum.

The daughter of a letter-carrier father and a homemaker mother, Bass grew up in the decidedly nonaffluent half of her district, which includes the posh Century City area. Her public career has revolved around what will be 2020’s two central issues: health care and criminal justice reform.
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Health care, which will be 2020’s most salient issue when statue-smashing has run its course, “obsessed” her, she says, when in her 30s two epidemics — AIDS and crack cocaine — ravaged African American communities. She says crack provoked benighted policies that “criminalized a public health problem.” Leaving her position as a clinical instructor at the University of Southern California’s Department of Family Medicine, she founded in 1990 the nonprofit Community Coalition (CoCo) to devise nonpolice measures for addressing crime.

“We were completely wrong” — when is the last time you heard a politician admit that? — in thinking that crack houses were the heart of the problem, she says. CoCo discovered that liquor stores were centers of criminal activity. Two hundred of them burned in 1992, and CoCo helped ensure that the most problematic ones did not reopen. It also worked with older gang members to cut the homicide rate. Her focus today on criminal justice issues, particularly prison reform, would dilute progressives’ resentment of Biden’s large role in passing the 1994 crime bill.

Elected to the state assembly in 2004, in three terms Bass became majority whip, then majority leader, then speaker. When the Great Recession clobbered California in 2008, she was compelled to undertake the distasteful task of pruning about a third$40 billion — of the state budget. There, she got to know Kevin McCarthy, now Republican leader in the U.S. House, who has called Bass his favorite Democrat because of her collaborative talents. Faint praise, perhaps, but notable in today’s toxic political climate.

She was one of only nine freshman Democrats sent to Congress by the dispiriting (for her party) 2010 elections that elevated “tea party Republicans.” The highlight for the “Noble Nine” was dinner at Biden’s vice presidential residence.

In Florida, the most important swing state, some Democrats resent Bass’s too-respectful 2016 statement on Fidel Castro’s death, calling him “comandante en jefe” (commander in chief). Their anxiety would be assuaged by her service on the board of the government’s most cost-effective program, the National Endowment for Democracy, where she has supported 65 grants totaling $6 million for democracy movements in Cuba.

Today, Bass chairs the Congressional Black Caucus, a former leader of which is South Carolina’s James E. Clyburn, now in his 14th term and third-ranking in the Democrats’ House leadership. Rarely has a presidential nominee owed to a supporter a debt as large as Biden’s debt to Clyburn. His political muscle made his state’s primary resuscitate Biden’s faltering campaign and propel it to victory.

Speaking by phone Monday from his district, Clyburn, who has not endorsed anyone, said “three big things” in Bass’s favor are her “legislative acumen” honed in California and on Capitol Hill, the fact that she “is no stranger to foreign affairs” and — “the biggest thing of all” — Biden would not need to worry about her “one-upping him,” because she has “no aspirations” to be president.

Bass will be 67 on Jan. 20, when Biden will be 78. Biden-Bass would be the nation’s oldest winning ticket, transitional leadership to get the world’s oldest party, and the world’s oldest democracy, to calmer days.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
You called Biden "an old man in a dangerous world"

I was just pointing out that Warren is in her seventies too.
Warren was, IMO, the best candidate for president this year and so I can't say I'd be unhappy if she were tapped for VP. Still, I'm glad to see other names are being raised for consideration. I would be glad if somebody in their prime years (40-50's) chosen for VP. There are some good ones out there. I never heard of Bass. If she isn't picked, the name recognition from this review process should help her the next time she comes up in the conversation for higher offices. Good for the Democrats for doing a thorough vetting of potential candidates.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Im liking Stacey Abrams,

Yale law, background in healthcare and public finance, Georgia's state house for ten years, and writes hot, sweaty romance novels, wowwa weewa! Very well spoken, with a celebrity type of appeal, and could turn out voters.
Next time around, no problem.
Buttigieg as the Pres & Abrams as VP.
That would be awesome :) :) :)
 

Rob Roy

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WOW. you actually use a meme to discuss your argument.
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