Warning about "Biosolids" aka Human Shit.

Leonardo de Garden

Leonardo de Garden

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I'm sure most of you already know, but for those that don't, "Biosolids" that are sometimes sold in compost mixes is a euphemism for "treated sewage sludge". Not good for using to grow your cannabis with at all.
 
Leonardo de Garden

Leonardo de Garden

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It's a shame they get away with misleadingly labeling it. Use it in reclaimed mining sites and places already screwed up, but keep it away from my buds and my veggies.
 
potpimp

potpimp

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The Chinese use it exclusively to feed farm raised fish (talapia mostly) that they sell to dumbassed Americans that buy fish at Wal-Marx. They also use it to fertilize their veggies.
 
cheechako

cheechako

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potpimp said:
The Chinese use it exclusively to feed farm raised fish (talapia mostly) that they sell to dumbassed Americans that buy fish at Wal-Marx. They also use it to fertilize their veggies.
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So I may be full of shit, but it is Chinese shit.
 
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Leonardo de Garden

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potpimp said:
The Chinese use it exclusively to feed farm raised fish (talapia mostly) that they sell to dumbassed Americans that buy fish at Wal-Marx. They also use it to fertilize their veggies.
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I'm not saying folks don't do it, I'm just saying I don't want it in my garden.
 
Leonardo de Garden

Leonardo de Garden

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The following are mixes reported to contain sewage based biosolids. If you know of others, or if any on this list have changed their tune, please let me know and I will remove them.

Agresoil
[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Bay State Fertilizer[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Chesapeake Sunshine[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
CompostT [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]ComPro[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
Dillo Dirt [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
EarthBlends [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
Earthlife [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]EarthMate [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
EKO Compost [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
Glacier Gold [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]GroCo [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Growers' Blend[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Hou-Actinite[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Kellogg Nitrohumus, Gromulch, Amend and Topper Los Angeles, CA)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Landscapers' Advantage[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]MetroGro [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Milorganite [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
Mine Mix[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
N-Viro BioBlend[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]N-Viro Soil[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Nutri-Green [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Oceangro[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]ORGRO[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]SilviGrow [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]SoundGro [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Synagro[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
TAGRO[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]TOPGRO [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Unity Fertilizer[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
WeCare Compost[/FONT]
 
cheechako

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None of those look like products targeted to mj growers. I'm not true organics, but I mostly use the Botanicare line and those bottles say things like "seabird guano" and "kelp extract".
 
Leonardo de Garden

Leonardo de Garden

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cheechako said:
None of those look like products targeted to mj growers. I'm not true organics, but I mostly use the Botanicare line and those bottles say things like "seabird guano" and "kelp extract".
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True, but not everyone uses the "specialty" soils to grow weed in. Nothing wrong with either seabird guano or kelp extract.
 
Leonardo de Garden

Leonardo de Garden

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scotchtape51 said:
What is wrong with using biosolids? It's not just raw sewage...
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No it isn't just raw sewage it is treated raw sewage, and "pink slime" isn't just salvaged meat refuse it is treated salvaged meat refuse. In both cases they are however close enough to have a concern over. Especially when they try to market it as "compost" or "hamburger", and are both banned in some other modern countries.

By the way, they don't use worms, they use anaerobic digesting tanks. Which basically means they put it in a sealed container for a while. Other treatments vary with the particular plant.

If you want to use it, by all means do, I'm not telling anyone what to do. But it should be plain enough on the label that people can make that choice on their own, and not hidden behind some deceptive organic sounding name to "trick" consumers into it.
 
cheechako

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scotchtape51 said:
What is wrong with using biosolids? It's not just raw sewage. It goes through a natural process using thousands of worms to convert the sewage into fertilizer.

edit: May want to check some of these out before being alarmed.https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=biosolids&oq=biosolids&gs_l=youtube.3...219.793.0.1672.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.1.
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Yes, you might want to do some research:
http://www.bvsde.paho.org/bvsaar/cdlodos/pdf/latestdevelopments209.pdf
http://www.biomedsearch.com/article/Survival-pathogenic-indicator-bacteria-in/155614684.html
https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/03/18-2

And: Recent studies (2010) have indicated that pharmaceuticals and personal care products, which often adsorb to sludge during wastewater treatment, can persist in agricultural soils following biosolid application.
 
Leonardo de Garden

Leonardo de Garden

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BelieveInJesus said:
I just really don't want to handle peoples poop.
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Yeah, seriously, even if the stuff was safe, would you want stranger poo near your buds? I don't even want my own poo near it, and I know where I've been.

Pretty sure when they say "don't poo where you eat" they don't mean it's okay for other folks to either.

Kidding aside, I am not just a prude, I am even a fan of fertilizing with composted mature vegetarian-insectivore animal poo (moo-moo cows, and cluck-cluck chickens, and even scream-scream bats), but human, dog, and cat poo is a known gag-gag no-no.
 
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scotchtape51

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cheechako said:
Yes, you might want to do some research:
http://www.bvsde.paho.org/bvsaar/cdlodos/pdf/latestdevelopments209.pdf
http://www.biomedsearch.com/article/Survival-pathogenic-indicator-bacteria-in/155614684.html
https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/03/18-2

And: Recent studies (2010) have indicated that pharmaceuticals and personal care products, which often adsorb to sludge during wastewater treatment, can persist in agricultural soils following biosolid application.
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Thanks for replying with some credible information:clap:. I was asking a legitimate question not trying to be a dick. Anyways I'm not saying I use the stuff or anything.
 
cheechako

cheechako

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Leonardo de Garden said:
Yeah, seriously, even if the stuff was safe, would you want stranger poo near your buds? I don't even want my own poo near it, and I know where I've been.

Pretty sure when they say "don't poo where you eat" they don't mean it's okay for other folks to either.
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After digging up those articles, I'm more concerned about other toxins and pharmaceuticals in the biosolids than poop.
 
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