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DIY-HP-LED

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can someone explain to me why the use of nuclear weapons makes NATO cry, but the fucking russians bombing the fuck out of nuclear power plants in the hopes of causing a disaster seems to be fucking fine?
having trouble wrapping my head around that question.
Go to the NATO website, the doctrine is all there, NATO's European allies are like herding cats, it was only an existential threat and the sure bet of breaking Russian military power that brought them on so completely, but even Hungry was a hold out. Using nukes is a non-starter and so far, there have been no leaks. There are many ways to make the Russians to feel pain and the Ukrainians would be delighted to perform the service. As I mentioned shutting off their lights for the winter with drones might be an option and threat Ukraine could make, we freeze, you freeze and if you want a sample...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They want to mobilize hundreds of thousands more eh? They can't even feed or equip the cannon fodder now, a least for as long as it takes for their incompetent officers to kill them by driving them like cattle to the slaughter. They don't even recover their dead and wounded, much less their equipment which is captured or destroyed. The Ukrainians probably have enough small arms captured by now to double the size of their territorials and that would include things like mortars as well as guns and grenades. I know they dramatically increased their armored forces with captured and repaired Russian equipment and more than made up for losses on recent offenses. Add in the modern weapons and these guys are as good as dead, if not already, doesn't look like a surrender picture.

See what happens when yer vote or opinion don't count? Republicans need to learn this lesson as much as these Russians.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Putin’s Ukraine losses will cause a Kremlin power struggle | Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges

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"There's going to be a lot of really tough power struggles in Russia over the next six months."

Russia's military failure could see Russia turn on Putin if he mobilises more soldiers, Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges tells #timesradio
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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you ignored the operative part of my complaint...the russians are shelling nuclear power plants...they WANT to cause an accident...they tried at Zap and didn't understand the tech enough to be able to do what they wanted to do.
why is NATO ok with that? Why don't they issue some kind of ultimatum? they don't seem like much of a peace keeping force when all hell is going on all around them, and they don't do a fucking thing...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you ignored the operative part of my complaint...the russians are shelling nuclear power plants...they WANT to cause an accident...they tried at Zap and didn't understand the tech enough to be able to do what they wanted to do.
why is NATO ok with that? Why don't they issue some kind of ultimatum? they don't seem like much of a peace keeping force when all hell is going on all around them, and they don't do a fucking thing...
Nato is a defensive alliance and can't just use nukes at will and they can't as an alliance, attack Russia. There is a belief that China has an agreement with them about being attacked on their own turf. We will see how it plays out, if there is a radiation leak into Europe, that might mean something. Poland is as free as America as a NATO member to make its own bilateral and other defense agreements and could ally with Ukraine, outside of NATO, but being a NATO member fighting Russia might be an issue though. I believe they have a joint suicide drone factory however and it's been going for a while and looks like it produces drones in the same class as the Iranian ones. Neither country is under sanctions and $10 or $20 million can make a lot of $10K drones fairly fast from off the shelf parts.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Keep shooting them Vlad, they are counting them down and ya can't make any more, the air defenses are improving by a lot every week, already the suicide drones are mostly useless against proper gun defenses. Then the grid repairs will begin in earnest with the equipment of 40 nations.

The Ukrainians are winning on the battlefield now and that is all they care about the war has entered the punishment phase for the Russians and they wouldn't miss it for the world, and I think now want the exclusive honor. If Zelenskiy wanted to talk peace without the Russians completely out of Ukraine and the kidnapped returned, there would be protests outside his office, in the dark.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like machines guns work well for drones, Sammy is sending more to mount on half tons. With proper training including using computer simulators and proper sights they should do ok against drones moving around 100 mph. Park a few around power substations for point defense also simple commercial fishing nets on poles around sand bagged or fortified transformers could snag them before they impacted.

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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See in the dark and thermal imaging works very well in winter conditions, people and machines stand out brightly on the ground at night. If you are working behind enemy lines at night, this thing can see everything for miles around on your intended route and help you to avoid trouble, no surprises or ambushes and might even be able to see buried land mines under the right conditions.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Looks like machines guns work well for drones, Sammy is sending more to mount on half tons. With proper training including using computer simulators and proper sights they should do ok against drones moving around 100 mph. Park a few around power substations for point defense also simple commercial fishing nets on poles around sand bagged or fortified transformers could snag them before they impacted.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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we should all be getting good at deciphering this shit by now...they either have directly gathered intelligence that that is the plan, or it is something they think is becoming more likely, and are warning the russians against it...
either way, the russians seem pretty unconcerned about our threats. why should they be?
Joe has been busting Vlad and putting him in a tighter corner at every step as he panics and squirms. That's my take, there will be no letup until he leaves and even then, there will still be trouble over kidnapped people and with Vlad's other neighbors. As I said, give the Ukrainians the means, if they don't already possess them, to turn of Russia's lights out for the winter and then knock down half the rail bridges in the country along with gas infrastructure. Give them warning and a taste, that if they use chemical or nukes or cause a reactor meltdown this is what will happen to you this winter over 48 hours. Try it and it will be a fast trip back in time two centuries.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Joe has been busting Vlad and putting him in a tighter corner at every step as he panics and squirms. That's my take, there will be no letup until he leaves and even then, there will still be trouble over kidnapped people and with Vlad's other neighbors. As I said, give the Ukrainians the means, if they don't already possess them, to turn of Russia's lights out for the winter and then knock down half the rail bridges in the country along with gas infrastructure. Give them warning and a taste, that if they use chemical or nukes or cause a reactor meltdown this is what will happen to you this winter over 48 hours. Try it and it will be a fast trip back in time two centuries.
the russian people might care, but putin has already proven beyond doubt that he places no value on the lives of his own citizens. at this point, he might welcome the power in moscow being shut down, it would keep the people from seeing the truth online for a while.
 
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