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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I consider that a first step.
A combined NATO force will come into each fragment of the Russias and methodically strip them of every last nuclear weapon, and quite possibly reactor.

If the Russians insist on proving that they cannot be trusted to possess the arms of a superpower, NATO is in a unique position to do something definite about it. A possible benefit for US will be the ability afterward to focus on the remaining nuclear superpower, who have been getting a bit ambitious of late.
 

Budzbuddha

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If Vlad pulls his dick out on the battlefield using nukes - one would think that his own ragtag psuedo-soldiers would also become nuclear fodder. Push button / scorched earth / russian moms told boys are missing. The fallout patterns have been computer modeled for radioactive drift - right up russia’s noses at worst.

How would he plan to “ occupy “ a dead zone ?

I mentioned before he is a table flipper - cause massive infrastructure damage that ripples down to economic , security and other interconnected targets.
He is already a marked man with the wartime atrocities accumulating daily , so the cornered rat is totally capable of a royal fuckup.

Even North Korea is firing over japan.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The recruiting offices are overflowing with men, but the ladies want a crack at them too! Many are medics and the bravest of all, they are cherished by their units and especially the wounded. I remember at the beginning of the war 400K expatriate Ukranian men working abroad returned to fight and the number probably doubled since then, compare that to the estimated 700K who left Russia to avoid the war.

Say in a couple of months 100K Russians are killed, 3 times that seriously wounded and a 100K are prisoners in Ukraine. Someone must be thinking of blowing up the rail bridges inside Russia on the 10 rail routes into Ukraine. It would cut off the Russians there already forcing their surrender and trap Vlad's conscript army in Russia. The Ukrainians are negotiating a target list with Uncle Sam for ATACMs, and it would be a no brainer for a strategic target. It would in effect stop the war and leave large numbers of pissed off armed Russian conscripts trapped inside Russia near Moscow.
 

Budzbuddha

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The recruiting offices are overflowing with men, but the ladies want a crack at them too! Many are medics and the bravest of all, they are cherished by their units and especially the wounded. I remember at the beginning of the war 400K expatriate Ukranian men working abroad returned to fight and the number probably doubled since then, compare that to the estimated 700K who left Russia to avoid the war.

Say in a couple of months 100K Russians are killed, 3 times that seriously wounded and a 100K are prisoners in Ukraine. Someone must be thinking of blowing up the rail bridges inside Russia on the 10 rail routes into Ukraine. It would cut off the Russians there already forcing their surrender and trap Vlad's conscript army in Russia. The Ukrainians are negotiating a target list with Uncle Sam for ATACMs, and it would be a no brainer for a strategic target. It would in effect stop the war and leave large numbers of pissed off armed Russian conscripts trapped inside Russia near Moscow.
Some of the finest snipers are women.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What do you think these guys are gonna do when the Russians are kicked out of Ukraine? There are a lot of well equipped (by someone) Belarusians fighting in Ukraine too, as are Vlad's various other enemies, organized into national brigades. Contacts are being made among themselves and with western intelligence agencies including the Ukrainians. If the Russians don't get rid of Vlad and sign a real peace, the fighting will move elsewhere, when it stops in Ukraine. Who knows, if the Ukrainians do it right, they could have many BTGs of Russian equipment to give away, enough to bother refurbishing it as a make work project for Ukrainians and Poles. When the lend lease comes through, much of this equipment could be given to Georgia or rebels in Belarus, that could include elements of the army. It is as good as the Russians will have for a long time to come and the Ukrainians might have a lot of it, more than the Russians!

Wars have unintended consequences; Vlad is learning that as he is now fighting for his own life and could be a war causality himself, though his demise would be by fragging from his own side.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Every time Vlad saber rattles nukes, Joe just fucks him harder, Uncle Sam and other allies are upping the weapons deliveries and ammo, while replacement troops are trained in allied countries to replace combat losses. They got Vlad on the ropes, and they are pounding the fucker senseless. It would be so easy to finish him by taking out the rail entrances to Ukraine supporting his logistics and ultimately exploit his greatest weakness, his utter dependency on the railways.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukraine must take the fight to Russia to win the war, expert says
325,789 views Oct 4, 2022 An urban warfare expert has told Forces News that Ukrainian forces need to use a mix of integrated attack strategies in order to capitalise on Russian weaknesses.

John Spencer says the Ukrainians will have to take the fight to the Russians if they are to win the war.
 

Polly Wog

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they learned the wrong things. They controlled the narrative to some extent, but more importantly, they had geography on their side. Most of Afghanistan was isolated by the terrain, which meant that the Russians could dictate the pace of their expenditure there.

They have none of that in Ukraine. They made gains in ‘14, a thing they are not achieving now. The terrain does not give them a much-needed time out, and Ukraine has so far been able to hold them to a “die this way, or die that way” operational tempo.

The one real revelation of the conflict so far is what a paper tiger the Russian army has turned out to be. This raises fears of nukes, but in my decidedly unprofessional opinion, a nuclear use would put Russia from the frying pan into the fire, turning the outcome from an empire-ender into a nation-ender.

If there will be negotiations, Ukraine will be participating from a position of unquestionable, if not necessarily unquestioned, strength.
They also learned shoulder fired missiles suck.
 

Lucky Luke

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Some red meat for you guys:


It's a different veiwpoint. Chomsky says the US is preventing Ukraine and Russia from reaching a settlement and because of that, we are making global warming worse. (or something like that). He also says that the people of Europe (especially France and Germany) oppose intervention in the Russo-Ukraine war. Also that UK is a lackey of the US. Prashad echoes Chomsky's claim that in March, Russia and Ukraine had reached an acceptable settlement but US said no. He goes on to say the US is blocking negotiations. And, arms spending is $2 T, while the UN budget is $2B. That might be true but I don't know what point he's making.

Anyway, the link provides a good snapshot of what @Lucky Luke will be saying over the next week or so.
I don't follow much of the Ukraine war. Its become back ground news here and has been for awhile.

Neither of them want a settlement and America probeley doesnt want one either, Biden doesn't. Correct France and Germany didn't want intervention. I thought that was pretty much documented.
Europe is now fkd with the pipeline blown up coming into winter. Will be bankrupt countries left and right. Looks like a European Depression coming. If we get another spark between counties Europe could blow right the fk up.
On the plus side i'm way over here and if Europe has a Depression then the US dollar should be strong and stabilize and the stock market should eventually strengthen, especially with all the rebuilding and supplying. Steel and coal will be needed and its what we do.
 
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Offmymeds

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If Vlad pulls his dick out on the battlefield using nukes - one would think that his own ragtag psuedo-soldiers would also become nuclear fodder. Push button / scorched earth / russian moms told boys are missing. The fallout patterns have been computer modeled for radioactive drift - right up russia’s noses at worst.

How would he plan to “ occupy “ a dead zone ?

I mentioned before he is a table flipper - cause massive infrastructure damage that ripples down to economic , security and other interconnected targets.
He is already a marked man with the wartime atrocities accumulating daily , so the cornered rat is totally capable of a royal fuckup.

Even North Korea is firing over japan.
I trust Garry Kasparov and my favorite conservative, Prof. Eliot A. Cohen.


 
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