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ANC

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those people apparently don't want to be a part of Ukraine anyway...let the russians have them, and that much land, with the clear understanding that any further encroachment into Ukraine will result in the forfeiture of luhansk and donetsk, and full reinstatement of all sanctions.
If you force those people that actually want to be a part of russia to remain in the Ukrainian population, they will always be a thorn in the side of Ukraine, the source of endless petty problems, and willing cooperation with the russians...
This has been my take too based on travel videos I watched before all this shit broke loose... It's not even a simple 'I do what I want thing'. Their lives are (were) on a practical level more closely associated with jobs, and opportunities on the Russian side of the border. When they got cut off their villages basically died and decayed due to joblessness and people leaving for opportunities elsewhere.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So, Putin is escalating and threatening nukes, again, however this time his back is really against the wall. The next month promises even bigger Russian defeats on a massive scale in the south and more land lost in the east. I guess Putin is gonna have to un-fire some generals to lead this new hoard of savages and their broken-down obsolete junk into Ukraine.

Looks like Joe will escalate too, and the Pentagon will supply the appropriate weapons system to deal with the threat. This time it will be killing or capturing large numbers of conscript infantry with no training who will be marching into battle carrying what they need on their backs using obsolete weapons and North Korean ammo. Sam may give ATCAMS, but under the agreement they would only be used on Russian rail bridges inside Russia, near their border.

Make the soldiers walk the final 200 km to the border and the old worn-out tanks drive there. The solution is rather simple and elegant really, Russia can't operate more than 25 km from a railhead, let's be generous and say they confiscate civilian trucks in Russia and say they can operate 50km, but this is with the regular army, not this hoard of conscripts. So, take out the vital rail bridges inside Russia near the Ukrainian border, they are a lot harder to repair and replace than road bridges. The Russians won't even make it to the border, much less be able to supply an army beyond the range of their logistics support. If this was the strategy, they could trap the Russian army inside Russia and cut off resupply to the one already in Ukraine, or what would be left of it. Ukraine already strikes targets inside Russia and most rail bridges are in the middle of nowhere, so little collateral damage. Sam and Ukraine might be able to cut a deal and account for every missile, there are a limited number of targets and taking them out would finish the Russian war effort in Ukraine.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Another reason to go green new grid, EVs and renewables, we don't have to deal with these assholes. Over the next decade there will be a panic starting among producing countries to sell as much oil and gas as they can, while they can, because global warming is gonna be a lot bigger issue than it is now, sooner than many think. As soon as better battery technologies become available (soon), it will mean the rapid decline of ICE vehicles and a dramatic drop in global demand for gasoline.

The less dependent America is on Saudi Arabia and other oil rich authoritarian regimes, the more heat we can put on them when they are acting like assholes. End dependency on fossil fuels or dramatically reduce demand and it will be a buyers' market, with plenty of supply options long before we stop using oil and gas altogether.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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The exodus from Russia accelerates as those with money and brains seek a way out, they are voting with their feet. Confidence in Putin and the Russian government must be at an all-time high, optimism and confidence is overflowing in Russia and flowing across its borders! :lol:

By the time Russia gets to sell its oil again demand should have fallen off significantly and the price low with a crowded market of sellers, in a dwindling market. I think the oil business is going to have some big changes starting in about a decade as EVs predominate and alternative energy sources with green new grids and energy storage increase steadily. Russia's entire oil infrastructure might have to be rebuilt requiring significant capital investments that won't be there and neither will the market. Russia without oil revenue has a bleak economic future. All their foreign assets should be seized and given to Ukraine as compensation at that point and Ukraine could displace them as the European energy supplier during the next decade, they have the proven reserves to do it.

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Veterans mean older men and if they are attacking, that's a young man's game, those who can stay up for 4 or 5 days on offensive drives. Older veterans also mean guys who have been around the block and have more experience in life, so expect some insubordination, fragged officers and surrenders. What will their communications equipment be like, their uniforms, and weapons? What training will they get and how much do they know about the current situation in Ukraine? Russia is already down to using obsolete tanks and Korean ammo in Ukraine, how about bases and trains to transport them to the front? After they get off the trains they will be walking and the further they get off the trains in Russia the further they walk. Russia can only operate about 25 Km from their railheads now and that puts them in range of Ukrainian tube artillery, not to mention HIMARS. So, if they destroy vital rail bridges around the Ukraine border inside Russia, they will in effect trap the Russian army there, since their logistics won't support advances. Joe will escalate in response to Putin and the means to do this could be part of a new arms package.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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i wonder what gear these reservists will use? what apcs will they travel in? i wonder what ammunition they will use for precision strikes? i wonder who will even feed them? it seems like putin is a day late and a ruble short...sending even 500,000 poorly trained, poorly equipped soldiers into battle against the Ukrainians is basically a death sentence for those 500,000...they will do damage, they will kill Ukrainians...but they will be doing it as they die by the hundreds.
putin is grasping at the stubble where straw used to grow...all he's going to do now is kill more civilians, and more russian soldiers, while racking up more war crimes to pay for.
he wanted to be remembered by history as the man who revived the soviet union, and instead hes' going to be remembered as the man who nailed it's casket shut.
 

Bagginski

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A timely reminder that the counteroffensive in Kharkiv was fueled by the FIRST wave of newly-trained UA troops…and then there’s the REST of the million or more who signed up in the last week of February. 300k aging re-called troops will certainly toss Putin’s bacon into the campfire: even if both sides were using rocks & sticks, UA would continue to beat the bloody shit out of Putin’s captive army - after all, they’re fighting to save their families, their homes, and their futures.

To do that, annexation (by ANY subterfuge) must be rendered IMPOSSIBLE - the alternative would be the worst extermination event since…well, *you* know
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A timely reminder that the counteroffensive in Kharkiv was fueled by the FIRST wave of newly-trained UA troops…and then there’s the REST of the million or more who signed up in the last week of February. 300k aging re-called troops will certainly toss Putin’s bacon into the campfire: even if both sides were using rocks & sticks, UA would continue to beat the bloody shit out of Putin’s captive army - after all, they’re fighting to save their families, their homes, and their futures.

To do that, annexation (by ANY subterfuge) must be rendered IMPOSSIBLE - the alternative would be the worst extermination event since…well, *you* know
If I can think of a strategy to cut Russian rail bridges and lock their army inside Russia, so can the clever folks at the pentagon. It would be a cheap, fast way to deal with the problem for a long time. It would take Russia a long time to repair or replace those bridges and pontoons won't do at all! Not a large missile would be required either, if it landed in front a train crossing the bridge and destroyed the track, the 5story high pileup of rail cars on the bridge would do the rest, as they followed the locomotives into the river. Seems like a plan to me, simple and direct and I can't be alone in thinking about it!
 

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