Very short and bushy

Dazza74

Member
Hello again
So on my second grow now and I’m little confused. My first run was ww x big bud and they grew very tall and skinny it was my first run so I probably made many mistakes but still ended up with about 15oz from 12 plants. This time the pants are very short probably about 12-18 inches high and very very bushy with very thick stems. have done some lst and they responded very well I’m just concerned I’ve fucked something up. They are 5 weeks in veg.
the pics attached are from 12 days ago they’ve doubled that in bushiness.
any advice should I be worried?2D1D6360-1930-4584-B739-07DE322D1DB3.jpeg1FA17F7A-F6D3-4F37-8772-CEB9B09661AC.jpeg
 
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PurpleGlurple

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They look fine. Sounds like your first batch stretched. Probably because lights were too high. Stretching = smaller yields. Short stocky plants means better and easier nutrient flow which = higher yields

My recommendations:

Make sure you ph 6.5 to 5.5 if coco fiber

Cut your nutrients down or in half and add a little more CAL-MAG because your running coco it looks like and make sure you thoroughly water them. They kinda look underwatered. Also Great White for roots or this: https://fungi.com/products/mycogrow_soluble?variant=8655117189232

One question for you: What kind of lights are you running?

Also you can drop the lights and raise them as they grow.

As they get a little bigger you can bump the nuits back to the normal schedule. Pro tip you should be concentrating on root production during veg.

"More roots, more fruits"
 
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Dazza74

Member
They look fine. Sounds like your first batch stretched. Probably because lights were too high. Stretching = smaller yields. Short stocky plants means better and easier nutrient flow which = higher yields

My recommendations:

Make sure you ph 6.5 to 5.5 if coco fiber

Cut your nutrients down or in half and add a little more CAL-MAG because your running coco it looks like and make sure you thoroughly water them. They kinda look underwatered. Also Great White for roots or this: https://fungi.com/products/mycogrow_soluble?variant=8655117189232

One question for you: What kind of lights are you running?

Also you can drop the lights and raise them as they grow.

As they get a little bigger you can bump the nuits back to the normal schedule. Pro tip you should be concentrating on root production during veg.

"More roots, more fruits"
Thanks mate
im growing in soil and using mg only at the moment as my water is very hard in my area so don’t think I need cal.
watering schedule is twice a day for around 8 mins allowing for run off
Lights are meijiu qb288 3500k with 660 reds not quite running at full power at the moment
That pic was taken just before lights out I’ve notice they look a droopy before bedtime
 

PurpleGlurple

Well-Known Member
They need to be watered more. Don't be lazy and do some hand watering on the top layer of soil. Everytime you water you want them DRENCHED and a some run-off from the bottoms.

Are you only giving them magnesium? If you are they need a full spectrum of liquid nutrients (BUT NOT AT FULL STRENGHT) aka Nitrogen/Calcium ect to green them up some with a PH of 6.2 - 7.0 since your running soil

But honestly that looks like coco fiber. you might want to double check your bag. ALSO CAL-MAG from Botanicare has nitrogen in it. Thats why I was recommending that. It will green your plants up if its coco medium.

Please ignore the fact you have hard water. Give them the CAL MAG
 
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Dazza74

Member
Ok I’ll up the watering schedule.
they also have base nutrients as well as the mg along with silicone all running at 50% of full recommend dose on bottles. I use silver bullet to keep the tanks clean and free from fungi etc.
But will definitely up the watering

also water is always ph to 6.5
 

PurpleGlurple

Well-Known Member
I would start hand watering the garden. I hand water 200-300 gallon pots. Those automatic systems have to be dialed in correctly to produce good results and they always end up getting clogged with nuitrients.
 
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