Vaping newbie

My apologies for asking what might well be an old & well worn out topic.

I have difficulties with smoke in that it makes me cough and more, it reminds me too much of my cigarette days that I should avoid smoking it. I prefer to ingest rather than smoke for those reasons. After trying vaping recently, I would like to try making it happen myself and perhaps it might even be more cost effective than ingesting, I don't know.

I've searched for info on vaping and how to do it myself but I keep finding what seems to be advertising hype for different products that are really expensive. What is an inexpensive and reliable way to make the oil and do this safely? And what vaping tool should I look for?

Thanks

Megalomando said:

My apologies for asking what might well be an old & well worn out topic.

I have difficulties with smoke in that it makes me cough and more, it reminds me too much of my cigarette days that I should avoid smoking it. I prefer to ingest rather than smoke for those reasons. After trying vaping recently, I would like to try making it happen myself and perhaps it might even be more cost effective than ingesting, I don't know.

I've searched for info on vaping and how to do it myself but I keep finding what seems to be advertising hype for different products that are really expensive. What is an inexpensive and reliable way to make the oil and do this safely? And what vaping tool should I look for?

Thanks

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So are you trying to vape flowers/bud or concentrates like oil? A good inexpensive and safe way to make oil is the rosin tech. I would YouTube it to see guides and such but essentially it's a heat and pressure extraction. Very safe to do. As far as a vaping tool. I would look into an oil rig. Maybe go with a simple one that you can purchase between $20-$50.

Google QWET and QWISO as well (or look on RIU). Very easy ways to make oil.

Are you trying to vape straight oil or turn it into a E-Cig type mix?

War & Growin, Thanks for the pointers, I'll look for those. As to the vaping, I think it was straight oil, I could see it in a glass chamber and all I needed to do was suck on the "cig". Today it's old technology but it was a first for me and it was very nice.

Vaping concentrate in the same manner as an e-cig is rather involved and requires additives to dilute the oil, which, to me, is as good as poisoning the concentrate and yourself.

I just dont see the appeal.

On the other hand... i love my Pax 2 for the flower. I dont know if it is truly vaping. I sti suspect combustion...but at least i avoid all the lumber in the flower...lol

Megalomando said:

War & Growin, Thanks for the pointers, I'll look for those. As to the vaping, I think it was straight oil, I could see it in a glass chamber and all I needed to do was suck on the "cig". Today it's old technology but it was a first for me and it was very nice.

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By the sound of it, it was an e-cigg pen. CO2 oil?
For straight oil, shatter, or whatnot, I would recommend the Eclipse Vape https://www.eclipsevape.com/eclipse-vape-blue They come in many colors.

As for e-cigg mixtures, it depends on what type of oil you are working with to determine the best mixture. I myself am no longer a fan of the pen vapes, I have graduated to the box mods, like the KangerTech subox nano kit.

Gquebed said:

Vaping concentrate in the same manner as an e-cig is rather involved and requires additives to dilute the oil, which, to me, is as good as poisoning the concentrate and yourself.

I just dont see the appeal.

On the other hand... i love my Pax 2 for the flower. I dont know if it is truly vaping. I sti suspect combustion...but at least i avoid all the lumber in the flower...lol

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You shouldn't judge it until you have tried to master it.

As for poisoning oneself with PG/USP, well that is ridiculous. I have already consumed, just like you, thousands of lifetimes worth of PG/USP, if it were only used to vape cannabis oil. How is this you may ask? Well PG/USP is used in processing many foods and beverages. I wouldn't worry about PG/USP, I would be more consumed with the other chemicals we are consuming on a daily basis.

As for the appeal, the most potent and tasty thing I have vaped, would have to be my e-cannabis oil in a sub ohm box mod vape. Not to mention, at just a push of a button you have a whole ounce worth of buds at your fingertips. All of which is condensed into a 4mL tank.

By the way, you can vape straight cannabis oil, but you will have to have 100% pure cannabis oil. Your oil must contain all of the essential terpenes to stay in liquid form. If it is naturally decarbed, it should provide the best vaping experience. Now me personally, I prefer a touch of PG/USP in my mix.

If you try rosin, be sure to try it bubble hash too not just flower. I discarded it as a viable method of making oil i like until i tried it with good bubble hash.... I prefer to run nugs though butane or make ice olator for rosin pressing later

Grow Goddess said:

You shouldn't judge it until you have tried to master it.

As for poisoning oneself with PG/USP, well that is ridiculous. I have already consumed, just like you, thousands of lifetimes worth of PG/USP, if it were only used to vape cannabis oil. How is this you may ask? Well PG/USP is used in processing many foods and beverages. I wouldn't worry about PG/USP, I would be more consumed with the other chemicals we are consuming on a daily basis.

As for the appeal, the most potent and tasty thing I have vaped, would have to be my e-cannabis oil in a sub ohm box mod vape. Not to mention, at just a push of a button you have a whole ounce worth of buds at your fingertips. All of which is condensed into a 4mL tank.

By the way, you can vape straight cannabis oil, but you will have to have 100% pure cannabis oil. Your oil must contain all of the essential terpenes to stay in liquid form. If it is naturally decarbed, it should provide the best vaping experience. Now me personally, I prefer a touch of PG/USP in my mix.

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Wow.

I don't even know where to start.

Why would you assume that I've never tried it? I have... and I really don't care for the diluted taste or the health implications.

Then there is your logic... Just because food corporations put chemical in their products and claim that they are safe doesn't mean they are. By your logic.... we all breath carbon monoxide and can't get away from it so who cares if you wrap your mouth around an exhaust pipe and ingest that way too? Hahahahahahahaha... I think the point you are missing is that PG/USP are not lethal and have minimal health effects ONLY IF consumption is kept below a certain level. But there is still a health effect. Period. Over time, consumption builds those levels of toxicity... and your saying that adding to them doesn't matter, since you can't avoid them anyway? That is just pure stupidity. Sorry....but it is.

Gquebed said:

Wow.

I don't even know where to start.

Why would you assume that I've never tried it? I have... and I really don't care for the diluted taste or the health implications.

Then there is your logic... Just because food corporations put chemical in their products and claim that they are safe doesn't mean they are. By your logic.... we all breath carbon monoxide and can't get away from it so who cares if you wrap your mouth around an exhaust pipe and ingest that way too? Hahahahahahahaha... I think the point you are missing is that PG/USP are not lethal and have minimal health effects ONLY IF consumption is kept below a certain level. But there is still a health effect. Period. Over time, consumption builds those levels of toxicity... and your saying that adding to them doesn't matter, since you can't avoid them anyway? That is just pure stupidity. Sorry....but it is.

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Yes, those studies are controversial regarding inhaling PG/USP. You may not know this, but PG/USP is used in medications to be inhaled in order to assist the medication in penetrating the lung tissue. That is why PG/USP is ideal for cannabis use in vaporizing.

I see that you have completely missed the point. Let me put it more simply, you need the right equipment.

You keep sucking on your carcinogens and enjoy your cancer causing free radicals. Don't tell me about poison, I do my research, obviously you have not. I think you may just be jealous. Jealous because you tried it with equipment that was not worthy, so you have to tell everyone it sucks. Well, bummer for you.

All in all, it appears to me that you are the poison consumer, not me. I have educated myself of what has poison and what does not and avoid it the best I can. 90% of my cannabis use is oral consumption, no chemicals, no pesticides, 100% organic, and I can prove it, can you?
This is a sample my patient took in and had tested without my knowledge, not that he thought there was a problem or anything, just so I could see where it rated.


Here is a nug of that same strain:


Unfiltered concentrates with no additives:


E-Cannaibs mix:



Let's see what you got..... kid

Grow Goddess said:

Yes, those studies are controversial regarding inhaling PG/USP. You may not know this, but PG/USP is used in medications to be inhaled in order to assist the medication in penetrating the lung tissue. That is why PG/USP is ideal for cannabis use in vaporizing.

I see that you have completely missed the point. Let me put it more simply, you need the right equipment.

You keep sucking on your carcinogens and enjoy your cancer causing free radicals. Don't tell me about poison, I do my research, obviously you have not. I think you may just be jealous. Jealous because you tried it with equipment that was not worthy, so you have to tell everyone it sucks. Well, bummer for you.

All in all, it appears to me that you are the poison consumer, not me. I have educated myself of what has poison and what does not and avoid it the best I can. 90% of my cannabis use is oral consumption, no chemicals, no pesticides, 100% organic, and I can prove it, can you?
This is a sample my patient took in and had tested without my knowledge, not that he thought there was a problem or anything, just so I could see where it rated.
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Here is a nug of that same strain:
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Unfiltered concentrates with no additives:
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E-Cannaibs mix:
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Let's see what you got..... kid

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Youre all over the place. So i dont understand what youre arguing.

But it doesnt matter. My original post is a matter of opinion. Your reply to it was sour grapes. Now youre trying to cover that with... well ... i dont know what that was. And in the middle of it you made huge assumption, which was way of the mark....

Gquebed said:

Youre all over the place. So i dont understand what youre arguing.

But it doesnt matter. My original post is a matter of opinion. Your reply to it was sour grapes. Now youre trying to cover that with... well ... i dont know what that was. And in the middle of it you made huge assumption, which was way of the mark....

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Yes, it was your opinion, and I gave you mine. Is that a problem? Seems to be a problem for you.

I would like to mention that I did not imply you have not tried it. I stated that you have not tried to mastered it. Big difference.

Now, if I am wrong, and you have mastered it, I would be very interested in you technique, and products you used. Products such as: type of concentrate, type of thinner, and vaping equipment.

I also mentioned about vaping straight, which you failed to acknowledge.

I can't help it, but I do take offense when people claim my products are poison, and I am willing to debate about it.

I showed you mine, can we see yours?

Grow Goddess said:

Yes, it was your opinion, and I gave you mine. Is that a problem? Seems to be a problem for you.

I would like to mention that I did not imply you have not tried it. I stated that you have not tried to mastered it. Big difference.

Now, if I am wrong, and you have mastered it, I would be very interested in you technique, and products you used. Products such as: type of concentrate, type of thinner, and vaping equipment.

I also mentioned about vaping straight, which you failed to acknowledge.

I can't help it, but I do take offense when people claim my products are poison, and I am willing to debate about it.

I showed you mine, can we see yours?

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Yes... i gave my opinion to the OP. You objected to it and gave me yours...to which i pointed at some stupidity in it, which you took offence to.

Now you have made a few assumptions, but you dont know which ones, evidently. Now you have made a couple more in this post. **slow head shake**

As for my method of vaping...it was clearly stated in no uncertain terms in my original post.

Lastly, i did not state your products are poison. You assumed that too. I didnt know you were a producer/manufacturer. So i couldnt have... I stated that the chemicals are poison.

You showed me your what? Products? And you want to see mine? I grow and consume my own medicine. That is all. Plenty of pics of all that here on rui. Flowers and dry ice hash... lots of pics and you you should not have to dig to far for them...

If coughing is a problem then you have two choices, either a vaporizer or an edible form of cannabis such as cannabutter. The two are very different, while vaporizers are a much lighter high than smoking, cannabutter can be far stronger than smoking! I would suggest for busy days use a vaporizer and for nights the edible cannabutter. If you want to buy a vaporizer I'd suggest these guys, for making cannabutter check out YouTube

Grow Goddess said:

Yes, it was your opinion, and I gave you mine. Is that a problem? Seems to be a problem for you.

I would like to mention that I did not imply you have not tried it. I stated that you have not tried to mastered it. Big difference.

Now, if I am wrong, and you have mastered it, I would be very interested in you technique, and products you used. Products such as: type of concentrate, type of thinner, and vaping equipment.

I also mentioned about vaping straight, which you failed to acknowledge.

I can't help it, but I do take offense when people claim my products are poison, and I am willing to debate about it.

I showed you mine, can we see yours?

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Yea bro could you point me to a good link for the mixture method
And items
I need to convert my qwiso into a flavored vaping juice , I got the oil down been making it for awhile
Just looking for away /items needed to tur it into a gaping juice