µTent Shared Bed Experiment

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overTHEman

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SlimJim503 said:
Someone else did this and ran into problems with the ph and a few others he had some plants with the clay balls on the bottom and others that had none. The ones with the clay balls looked like shit while the same strains and seeds from the same breeder pack had zero problems he even stated he had a buddy doing the same and the ones without the balls looked healthier. Should just put perlite or however its spelled in the bottom if your set on having something in the bottom of your pots. Also if you didn't boil your clay balls you might run into more problems like with root rot and such. Hope everything works smoothly for you and you dont run into the same problems.
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Alright then, the hydroton's gonna have to come out. It looks like my policies are a little outmoded.

Many sources online are overwhelmingly against a "bottom drainage layer". Thank you all for bringing my attention to this.

Update on this soon.
 
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I would go with the basics until after your first or so harvest then open them doors right up but always have a garden or a few that are ran on the basics that way if something new does not pan out then you have your fall back girls type of thing. I always like meeting someone who thinks outside the box there are endless ways to train and grow your marijuana just have to find what works for your garden and yourself type of thing and then perfect it.
 
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SlimJim503 said:
I would go with the basics until after your first or so harvest then open them doors right up but always have a garden or a few that are ran on the basics that way if something new does not pan out then you have your fall back girls type of thing. I always like meeting someone who thinks outside the box there are endless ways to train and grow your marijuana just have to find what works for your garden and yourself type of thing and then perfect it.
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Thank you slimjim, your advice is much appreciated. Stay tuned, I'll try to remove that layer today.
 
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Okay folks, the plants haven't even gotten through veg and problems must be solved.

The belief that larger size particles on the bottom of growing containers will assist in drainage has now become old hat. Looks like my 1980s horticulture degree needs a polishing. This Link sums up the info found in the last 24hrs. Missnu, assassin, slimjim; thank you for bringing this to my attention.

This wasn't the easiest or cleanest thing to do. It would have been much easier if the clover seeds didn't need to stay on the top of the bed.

Ms Otm left early for work this morning, she'd kill me if she saw these pics.


First, the bed was removed and flipped upside down "onto" a large piece of plastic.




The hydroton was then brushed off the top of the pile.




Layers of soil were placed back in the bed in large chunks. Once the true top of the soil was reached, a spatula was used to move the soil/clover/myco cakes back to the top of the bed and right side up. (See the sprouts?)




Since this left much Clover and fungi out of place, more seeds and myco were distributed to correct the issue.




Finally, a layer of EWC and Baccto professional were added on top. The entire bed was then placed back in the tent.






I would like to apologize for being defensive of this practice. We thought it natural to apply this technique as we have used it for our veggies for years. Looks like our outdoor gardening habits are gonna change as well.

Thank you guys again.
 
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Look into raised beds for your outside grows they produce earlier and with greater yields also any vine type such as cucumbers, green beans, even tomatoes benefit from being grow in raised beds then scrogged into screens. I have my screens on the outside of my beds so i LST the tops of said plants out of the raised bed then into the screen that way the plants can grow flat or at an angle and get 100% light also you can run more plants in a single bed using the screen as if you did not use it also makes them easier to pick and find to pick hahahaah.
 
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oTm, no need to apologize about being defensive. Every gardener has their techniques and it is hard for us to deviate from those techniques we have developed over the years. I was more curious as I hadn't seen that before, but I am coming in kind of late in the game I guess. haha.

Did you replant the clovers?
 
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Flower Specs
26"x16"x6" 6 Gallon Shared Bed

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Sources for Further Reading
Teaming With Microbes
Living Mulch
Organics for Beginners
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overTHEman said:
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A "new" idea, at least to me, is the one of a Living Mulch. After reading Teaming With Microbes the benefit from increased biological activity at the surface of the soil became obvious. Soon after, I stumbled upon the "Living Mulch" thread posted in the OP. The idea is to expand the fungal network in the most aerated and biologically active part of the soil. Cover crops like Dutch White Clover have only small feeder roots and in using these, an organic mat-of-hyphae can be established.

From here, the jump to a "shared bed" was very small; if cannabis shares mychorrizal connections with other plants, why wouldn't it work with other kinds of cannabis? ...
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Since Clover's nutritional tolerances are still unknown, a fresh batch of soil was made to sit directly below the clover. 2Gal baccto professional, 1 Cup Oat flour, 1/2 cup black gold 5-5-5. Lime was left out to provide balanced acidity to the soil bed.

The living mulch thread recommends the clover should be applied in a biologically diverse medium. 1 TBS Seeds + 1 tsp MycoGrow + 2 TBS Oat Flour + 4 tsp EWC + 1 tsp Azomite, were mixed in a separate container and spread evenly across the soil's surface. These were watered in with a mister and plain Baccto professional was applied to the surface.







If/when the clover sprouts (~7-10 days) it will be trimmed and the Blackberry plants will be moved to Flowering.
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What are you going to do with clover?
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I'm going to grow it.

Clover's a nitrogen fixer, resistant to stress, a perennial, and a hardy grower without a tap root. It makes a great companion-plant/cover-crop/living-mulch.
 
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Weekly update, not much to report.

The vegging blackberries are reaching a good place in their early growth, green leaves and strong stems. It's good to see given the unstable nature of these seeds. Big plants are becoming rootbound, small ones were transplanted to 16oz cups too early. It would be convenient if the size/timing works out to flowering all four at once.

The madness seed cracked, pushed a tap root, and went into a peat pot on Sunday.

Also, the clover's finally sprouting.


Veg Bin




BB#1




BB#2




BBs 3 & 4 (Madness in the tupperware)





Shared Bed... Weird Mounds




Clover Sprouts



 
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Here's the last few weeks of this grow, concise version.



Blackberry Week 3 2/27





Madness/Waldo




Transplant Day 3/5





One of BB's rootbound sisters




Popping Apollo 3/12



 
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