TacoMac
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Which I already stated.I would certainly purify the lake water for use in flooded hydro but that’s just me.
Using Lake Water in Ebb and Flow Hydro system
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ChefKimbo
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How much 35% H202 for a 30 gal rez would you say?I would certainly purify the lake water for use in flooded hydro but that’s just me
My source is well maintained by municipality for local drinking water, algae blooms are intensely controlled.
Budley Doright
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I have lots so I put in about 200 ml per 100 litres and that seems to do it
. But I use well water for my hydro and it’s uv purified with whole house system. I tend to stay away from the lake water now, like I said earlier the well works better for me.
Dr. Who
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Well water CAN contain serious amounts of all NPK values!...
Where is your well head?
Neighbor down the street sold of 40 acres of his back farm land to another farmer. The new owner is dumping tons of dairy farm manure on that land.
The well at the base of that land is already skyrocketing in P values! This started last year.....The former owner is considering a DEQ complaint...
What goes in water at the surface. Has direct effect on below ground water quality! Unless your well head is comfortably over 150ft down...You will get and even then, you will eventually. Have effect from surface changes.
THAT is why I told the OP to TEST his lake water. You can easily, adjust for content!
What is it your doing by treating the lake water? Your not making it potable. You don't need to, YOU'RE not drinking it!
Taco, get off the logic bandwagon....READ my first post again!
Where is your well head?
Neighbor down the street sold of 40 acres of his back farm land to another farmer. The new owner is dumping tons of dairy farm manure on that land.
The well at the base of that land is already skyrocketing in P values! This started last year.....The former owner is considering a DEQ complaint...
What goes in water at the surface. Has direct effect on below ground water quality! Unless your well head is comfortably over 150ft down...You will get and even then, you will eventually. Have effect from surface changes.
THAT is why I told the OP to TEST his lake water. You can easily, adjust for content!
What is it your doing by treating the lake water? Your not making it potable. You don't need to, YOU'RE not drinking it!
Taco, get off the logic bandwagon....READ my first post again!
Budley Doright
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Google Walkerton to see what happens to wells, just sayin .
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Budley Doright
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My logic for treating lake water for my hydro grows, and I believe that’s what this thread is about, is to kill any living thing in it good or bad lol.
HotKarl2
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That's my logic as well, just use some calcium hypochlorite (chlorine) to purify the water, and then run it through a KDF/Active Carbon filter combo into my reservoir using something like this to remove sediment and some metals and chlorine:
Then re-add bennies like Hydroguard (Bacillus Amyloliquefaciens) to help breakdown any excess nitrates and ammonia. (After this step the EC is only 0.2 at this time of year.)
People next door use the lakewater to drink, but obviously they filter it. There is a lot of lake weeds and wildlife, it's a pretty big lake, some might even call it great, although in my little corner it is a bit stagnant until the wind stirs it up, we do have algea and some weird ectoplasmic green blooms in height of summer. I'm 4 weeks into bloom now and I am going to switch to the lake water since I ran out of DI filters and those fuckers are expensive (and lately the quality has been shit from the manufacturer). I deal with soluble manganese which goes right through RO from my well water, so I need DI...hence the lake water gambit.
Anyways I will update this post as bloom progresses..Thanks everyone for your input.
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HotKarl2
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Chlorinate, then remove chlorine and add beneficials and you won't have slime or algae...why would you?
I have used my well water before directly, it killed my plants; it has a lot of heavy metals in it like zinc and also high levels of lime, and soluble manganese levels 100 times higher than the EPA limit.
See my previous post and then I would be curious what you think.
TacoMac
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Nitrate, Nitrite and ammonia. That's why. There's only one way to get rid of those: carbon filtering or reverse osmosis...which as I've said before puts you right back where you started.
HotKarl2
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Carbon/KDF filtering does not remove nitrates or ammonia, RO will though. Anyways I am using a cheap carbon/KDF filter to remove the chlorination and sediment, the Bacillus Amyloliquefaciens should help control the excess nitrates and ammonia and turn it into food for the plants.
I'm on day four of lake water and MegaCrop so far no slime, algea, plants seem happy...res doesn't stink at all, roots out of the cube are still white....PH is rock solid 6.0....looks to be working so far at least.
*I'd upload some pics I just took but the site isn't letting me right now. Not sure if that is system wide or what.
HotKarl2
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Still going great. There is some sediment on the bottom of my 80 gallon res now that wasn't there before, but it is harmless, I believe it's just turbidity settling. Otherwise the res solution is clear, and still doesn't smell, and no algae in tub or table, plants seem to be doing really well, they are starting to pack on a bit of weight.
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Budley Doright
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Can you show me a carbon filter that removes nitrates?
HotKarl2
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The craziest thing happened. I added a PK booster to the res, it was a 0-50-30 mix. Anyways it was so crazy the EC was like 2.2 and then I checked it and it was also lower than normal due to I fill it when it gets 50%, anyways, at this level of nutes normally at this low water level in the res it would increase in EC but it went to 1.8EC somehow. PH stayed the same! These fuckers ate some shit tonight@!
Amaze-balls.
I have not seen this level of hunger before so I am super interested as to how the lake water will perfom next!
Amaze-balls.
I have not seen this level of hunger before so I am super interested as to how the lake water will perfom next!
nonamedman420
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think aquaponics. the lake water would have a lot of organic matter and nutrients. might be surprised at the nutrient content of lake water. might be able to get away with using a whole lot less nutrients. this is opinion, but aquaponics deals with this and works well.
Budley Doright
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Not my lake water, it won’t sustain a marijuana plant alone
. I use swamp water that has mostly farms running in to it and it still won’t grow a plant to its potential .
nonamedman420
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i didn't say that it would.Not my lake water, it won’t sustain a marijuana plant alone
Budley Doright
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I didn’t say you did lol