Using energy from crystals and pyramids to increase plant success

Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Whether I missed your point or not, the point I was making is that there is nothing negative or hateful about being skeptical. It's totally legit to point out that there is a difference between something claiming to be scientific and something actually being scientific. And, you don't have to hate anything to point out that, without knowing those conditions, what you've brought to the table is hearsay. There is nothing barbed about that statement. It also doesn't indicate negativity that someone didn't "google it" before commenting, even if it is easier. You've merely answered skepticism with cynicism.

Even if we accept the premise, that, under scientifically controlled conditions these things were observed, we still wouldn't have anything suggesting that chi or consciousness was the cause. We would have merely established an effect. Certainly, an effect worthy of further study, but still just an effect. I've read three articles reporting this phenomenon and the abstract of the study they seem to be based on, and in each case the cause is assumed. That alone is very unscientific. The only thing a study like this could hope to do is reject the null hypothesis, which would indeed be remarkable, yet still wouldn't speak to a cause.
 
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Rizlared

Rizlared

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none of what you've said is news.

In my spare time i read up on studies and watch lectures on quantum physics and and the nature of reality.

I know how the scientific method works.

I also know how pleased some people get lecturing at others online...or trolling

I mentioned, in a previous post, that i was very tired working nights... insinuating that i may have misread negativity in a reply.

MAY HAVE

Now, this has little to do with the OP so i will comment no more.

An open mind is healthy, we should all view life (and the claims of others) with one or risk misleading ourselves
 
Rizlared

Rizlared

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Heisenberg said:
Weather I missed your point or not, the point I was making is that there is nothing negative or hateful about being skeptical. It's totally legit to point out that there is a difference between something claiming to be scientific and something actually being scientific. And, you don't have to hate anything to point out that, without knowing those conditions, what you've brought to the table is hearsay. There is nothing barbed about that statement. It also doesn't indicate negativity that someone didn't "google it" before commenting, even if it is easier. You've merely answered skepticism with cynicism.

Even if we accept the premise, that, under scientifically controlled conditions these things were observed, we still wouldn't have anything suggesting that chi or consciousness was the cause. We would have merely established an effect. Certainly, an effect worthy of further study, but still just an effect. I've read three articles reporting this phenomenon and the abstract of the study they seem to be based on, and in each case the cause is assumed. That alone is very unscientific. The only thing a study like this could hope to do is reject the null hypothesis, which would indeed be remarkable, yet still wouldn't speak to a cause.
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After re-reading this, fair points made actually.

It's the 'barbed' comments people reply with that highlights the negativity, and in my opinion, true motive for the replies

As you were
 
Potent Enigma

Potent Enigma

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Rizlared said:
I knew I'd get this reply.

I figured that anyone interested would look it up...anyone not looking it up but being negative well, that speaks for itself
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I appreciate you posting it thanks. As far as im concerned, a belief, if not taking away from results, is harmless to have, it basically can't hurt unless you rely on it too much. I do find it funny that in an age of discovering quantum entanglement, storing data on dna strands, that people still have a huge commitment to denying unknown possibilities and discoveries.

It isn't hurting anyone, why not leave it alone and ignore it if you don't agree, instead of spending energy to oppose it? Seems like wasted energy honestly.
 
Potent Enigma

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All skeptics of the world of telepathy or thought... I advise you look into Remote Viewing, namely Ingo Swann's experiments at Stanford Research Institute. The information comes from unclassified documents about the governments extensive remote viewing program.

... Then realize that between the strands of the fabric of reality, lies the immaterial blueprint of the material world.
 
Rizlared

Rizlared

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Quantum entanglement is a great example of the unknown.

Something, a force? a method of communication? Something is working at faster than light speed over vast distances.

Mind blowing and fascinating
 
mauricem00

mauricem00

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Rizlared said:
Quantum entanglement is a great example of the unknown.

Something, a force? a method of communication? Something is working at faster than light speed over vast distances.

Mind blowing and fascinating
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or perhaps a misinterpretation of data by people who do not understand the mechanics of the machine used to perform these test. if their is a rational explanation based on mechanics (applied physics) they ignore it possibly out of ignorance and chose the "magical' interpretation that supports their beliefs.factor in wave mechanics and the effects of standing waves on the generator (photonic compression) and the interpretation of data would be radically different. the "entanglement" is occurring at the point of origin and not at some distance from that point.
 
Rizlared

Rizlared

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mauricem00 said:
or perhaps a misinterpretation of data by people who do not understand the mechanics of the machine used to perform these test. if their is a rational explanation based on mechanics (applied physics) they ignore it possibly out of ignorance and chose the "magical' interpretation that supports their beliefs.factor in wave mechanics and the effects of standing waves on the generator (photonic compression) and the interpretation of data would be radically different. the "entanglement" is occurring at the point of origin and not at some distance from that point.
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oh ok, that's interesting.

My understanding is that, once 'entangled' the effects happen instantaneously regardless of distance and that this has been proven by multiple experiments.

Is this not the case?

For clarity, I'm only interested in learning and not trying to prove you right/wrong
 
Potent Enigma

Potent Enigma

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mauricem00 said:
or perhaps a misinterpretation of data by people who do not understand the mechanics of the machine used to perform these test. if their is a rational explanation based on mechanics (applied physics) they ignore it possibly out of ignorance and chose the "magical' interpretation that supports their beliefs.factor in wave mechanics and the effects of standing waves on the generator (photonic compression) and the interpretation of data would be radically different. the "entanglement" is occurring at the point of origin and not at some distance from that point.
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So you think quantum physicists CHOSE to interpret something as magic? Ummm I'm pretty certain you could break a scientists arms before they'll consider anything of the sort. Quantum physics probably broke their world. I suppose the double slit experiment was also an effect of the device? (ironically it was, but not how one would assume)
 
Rizlared

Rizlared

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Some people look at evidence/results and say "that's interesting" and consider the possibilities.

Some look and say "proves nothing" and continue as they were

Words change nothing but i know which mindset brings about change

For the record, i neither support the claims some make about crystals nor deny them.

I have too little knowledge on the subject so keep an open mind
 
mauricem00

mauricem00

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Potent Enigma said:
So you think quantum physicists CHOSE to interpret something as magic? Ummm I'm pretty certain you could break a scientists arms before they'll consider anything of the sort. Quantum physics probably broke their world. I suppose the double slit experiment was also an effect of the device? (ironically it was, but not how one would assume)
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throughout history theorist have made wrong assumptions out of ignorance. from planks experiment on. the outcome could be explained using standard mechanics.even theorist admit plank made an error in his math by inverting a value sign but go on the claim his theory is right even if the math was wrong.apply our current understanding of molecular resonance and wave mechanics to his data and you would see that what he discovered was the shortest wavelength (highest energy level) that we can detect and that wavelength comes close to the natural resonance frequency of an electron. the active particle in his experiment. theorist are trained in math. not mechanics or engineering. field theory explains the actions of sub atomic particles and light using mechanics and does not require quantum correction factors, an unlimited number of parallel universes, or a large number of exotic particles that can not be captured and studied. in lab test small metal shears behaved like sub atomic particles under the right conditions.Einstein and others rejected quantum theory. in the real world light always acts as a wave. never a particle. parallel realities only need to exist to address a paradox created by the particle theory of light.under special relativity any object with a mass greater than 0 would have infinite energy at the speed of light. Einstein said that under general relativity space had to have substance and could not be an empty void as quantum theorist claim. in every field of applied science the Bohr atomic model is used and works great but 2 years after Neils Bohr introduced this model theorist "proved" it did not work. theorist do make mistakes because of limited knowledge. I search for knowledge and understanding but never believe a person is right simple because they have a title.my doctor told me to take prescription drugs for my medical problems and other drugs to address the side effects. as an MMJ patient I ignored his advice and found that cannabis works better and does not have the side effects of prescription drugs. I have no formal training in medicine but I know what works best for me.choosing to interpret data in a way that supports a theory is a common error known as confirmation bias and frequently ideals have been rejected by the main stream for years because the challenged current beliefs only to be accepted in time
 
Rizlared

Rizlared

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mauricem00 said:
throughout history theorist have made wrong assumptions out of ignorance. from planks experiment on. the outcome could be explained using standard mechanics.even theorist admit plank made an error in his math by inverting a value sign but go on the claim his theory is right even if the math was wrong.apply our current understanding of molecular resonance and wave mechanics to his data and you would see that what he discovered was the shortest wavelength (highest energy level) that we can detect and that wavelength comes close to the natural resonance frequency of an electron. the active particle in his experiment. theorist are trained in math. not mechanics or engineering. field theory explains the actions of sub atomic particles and light using mechanics and does not require quantum correction factors, an unlimited number of parallel universes, or a large number of exotic particles that can not be captured and studied. in lab test small metal shears behaved like sub atomic particles under the right conditions.Einstein and others rejected quantum theory. in the real world light always acts as a wave. never a particle. parallel realities only need to exist to address a paradox created by the particle theory of light.under special relativity any object with a mass greater than 0 would have infinite energy at the speed of light. Einstein said that under general relativity space had to have substance and could not be an empty void as quantum theorist claim. in every field of applied science the Bohr atomic model is used and works great but 2 years after Neils Bohr introduced this model theorist "proved" it did not work. theorist do make mistakes because of limited knowledge. I search for knowledge and understanding but never believe a person is right simple because they have a title.my doctor told me to take prescription drugs for my medical problems and other drugs to address the side effects. as an MMJ patient I ignored his advice and found that cannabis works better and does not have the side effects of prescription drugs. I have no formal training in medicine but I know what works best for me.choosing to interpret data in a way that supports a theory is a common error known as confirmation bias and frequently ideals have been rejected by the main stream for years because the challenged current beliefs only to be accepted in time
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In the interest of balance, theorists have also proven to be correct...but that's a great post.

To be fair though, a lot of what is theorised is impossible to prove given the limitations of modern technology...but theories drive experimentation so, whether or not they prove to be correct, they advance technology.

A recent lecture on string theory i watched stated that, if you magnified an atom to the size of the planet, the string would be the size of a tree.

Nothing we have can detect anything so small...yet

Fascinating subject though
 
mauricem00

mauricem00

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Rizlared said:
In the interest of balance, theorists have also proven to be correct...but that's a great post.

To be fair though, a lot of what is theorised is impossible to prove given the limitations of modern technology...but theories drive experimentation so, whether or not they prove to be correct, they advance technology.

A recent lecture on string theory i watched stated that, if you magnified an atom to the size of the planet, the string would be the size of a tree.

Nothing we have can detect anything so small...yet

Fascinating subject though
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true theorist are not idiots. but truth can only be learned thru experiments.I'm a PU MMJ closet grower. I use T5s but conduct test grows with LEDs. at 60 im not to old to learn new things but I am a skeptic.this is probably not the best forum to discus these matters but it is an entertaining subject
 
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Randaok

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StoopidLungs said:
Crystals and weed growing. I have been on a spiritual journey lately which has brought me to love the effects that different types of crystals can have on people and the energy that surrounds them. So I had an idea to use crystals in my grow room and I researched which crystals work best for plant growth. So I ordered a pyramid shaped moss agate (pyramid-shaped crystals contain even more energy) and also a whole pound of rough green calcite. I am going to put the moss agate pyramid in between the 2 buckets on the ground and scatter the pound of green calcite around the buckets and grow room. Here are the benefits of each stone:

“Moss agate is probably the most beneficial stone when you want increased plant growth. It is known as “the gardener's talisman” for this very reason. Moss agate is often used to attract prosperity and abundance. It's also a healing stone. This crystal is associated with nature spirits. Wearing moss agate while gardening can increase your energy, relieve a stiff neck, and “tune” you in to the energies of your garden. Placing moss agate stones in a container pot or in the ground will increase flower and plant growth. I made a moss agate wind chime suspended from three bamboo stakes tied together at the top and placed this “tee-pee” in a part of my garden where the Phlox weren't doing so well. Within a couple of weeks, I was overrun. A little goes a long way when it comes to crystals. If you have fruit trees, try hanging a small moss agate stone from one of the branches to promote a healthy harvest.”

"Another crystal useful in the garden is Green Calcite, a pale green stone that is said to belong to the small earth spirits of the woods and meadows. Offering a small stone with thanks to these elementals can result in a lush and beautiful garden. Green calcite is also a healing stone and is often used to calm and soothe. If your property is too loud, crowded or over active, you can place a green calcite crystal in a flowerpot or under a tree to soothe the area.”

There is a ton of info on the positive effects of crystals on gardening, but little to no info that is cannabis specific. I think I only found 1 report of somebody using crystals in their grow room and he said the effects were incredible and surprising. Anybody heard of this? I will let yall know how it goes when my crystals arrive!!!! :mrgreen:
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I know this was written in 2012 however I’ve started using electro culture technology in my garden the last two years. And I understand in the below comments people that are uneducated on this knowledge think it’s voodoo and other such wise cracks… but the fact is it works. And I had the same comments towards me from my family members until they seen it in full effect last year within my own garden. I understand this post is on crystals. I have been using electro culture and this year I am adding crystals to that. Because the crystals only enhance the culture technology. Word of encouragement just ignore the naysayers… and continue on. Thanks for sharing your information.
 
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