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althor

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Thank you sir for the knowledge!!! And I will read up on it... This is like on the job training for the best job in the world!!!
To give my opinion with a little detail, I consider leaves to be solar panels. There are times when I will remove a leaf, but rarely. I will most often try to move the leaf so it doesn't block the bud sites, sometimes tying it back some, or tying the stem itself to stretch it open some and let the light in to the bud site.
 

Schwaggy P

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Just got a pack of the nube dank sinatra f2s. Any info on the f1 parents? Or did he do an open pollination?
Info from Nu-Be about the Dank Sinatra F2

Congrats on the James Bean listing, @Useful !!!! https://www.jamesbeancompany.com/shop-useful-seeds Mark one down for the good guys! If I know you, you got more up your sleeve! ;)

Grats @MustangStudFarm @Bubby'sndalab and everybody else who picked up those Dank Sinatra F2. I wanted to let you know a couple things about them. They were open pollinated, 4 guys and 3 girls, in organic soil under COB LEDs. All four guys ended up being frosty, but the two boys in back were _extra_ frosty from the get-go.
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My objective in making these was genetic preservation for the community of one of bodhi's lost beauties. More than a few old heads say this one is in their top 5 for potency and strong medicinal effects.
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DS is a relatively light feeder who doesn't need a lot of N. She's not slow, but since she's a indica, she grows squat and bushy. She likes light defoliation and a lot of airflow because her buds are extremely dense, but don't strip her down or you'll stunt her growth.
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Although I took these ladies to day 70 to ensure the beans ripened, some phenos will be ready at 8 weeks.
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As you might expect, these ladies smell dank. They're not a loud, Loud, LOUD!!! strain, but you can expect berry, mint and menthol earthy tones, with the occasional lime-leaner.
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In the treasure chest of open pollinated F2, anything's possible, as shown by @torontoke finding great variation in his phenos, with an outlier cherry leaner with sativa-ish leaves. Check out his journal - he's got a few of these F2 in their 3rd and 4th week of flowering, and they're looking great!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/shootin-fer-mids-if-im-lucky.957103/

Keep an eye on that guy because he just finished some Landos Stash F2 that might get spread around these here parts in the future. ;)
 

Bodyne

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To give my opinion with a little detail, I consider leaves to be solar panels. There are times when I will remove a leaf, but rarely. I will most often try to move the leaf so it doesn't block the bud sites, sometimes tying it back some, or tying the stem itself to stretch it open some and let the light in to the bud site.
I think this too, and I'll tuck and wrap around fanners instead of lopping off, but I seen folks in OR, especially outdoors, that would get a plant up goin and beautiful and then defoliate all the fanners underneath, thought it would really mess with em, but it didn't sure freaked me out. Ive also noticed that when flower from seed, inside in a tent anyhow, with the stretchin, you don't have as many midlevel fans, or ime. Which is actualy nice per airflow. Next round im gonna give em a week of MH veg, then go straight to flower.
 

Frank Nitty

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I think this too, and I'll tuck and wrap around fanners instead of lopping off, but I seen folks in OR, especially outdoors, that would get a plant up goin and beautiful and then defoliate all the fanners underneath, thought it would really mess with em, but it didn't sure freaked me out. Ive also noticed that when flower from seed, inside in a tent anyhow, with the stretchin, you don't have as many midlevel fans, or ime. Which is actualy nice per airflow. Next round im gonna give em a week of MH veg, then go straight to flower.
At what point do you start veg?
 

Bodyne

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At what point do you start veg?
I been doin the beer cup thing after I get em up, gonna go to the half gallon size from now on, from seed rooter and then one tranplant to bigger pot when sexed. See how good any males look at that point, either use or discard. So basically a week to two getting seedling up and into tent established, then a hard week of MH 24/7, two at most, then flip the timer. Especially after seeing this last round the two flowering didn't get out of hand height wise as had been happening without veg time, flowering from seedling. Not many lower fans as they stretched, and still big ole nugs. Only wished i hadn't topped em, just went with the main cola. I'll have to this next round, I got 25 seeds up, in a smaller tent, 5 already in gallon smarties as they are female. Helluva deal, ain't done it like this in awhile.
 

Frank Nitty

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Info from Nu-Be about the Dank Sinatra F2
I think this is the first time that I have ever seen Nu-be say anything!!! K
I been doin the beer cup thing after I get em up, gonna go to the half gallon size from now on, from seed rooter and then one tranplant to bigger pot when sexed. See how good any males look at that point, either use or discard. So basically a week to two getting seedling up and into tent established, then a hard week of MH 24/7, two at most, then flip the timer. Especially after seeing this last round the two flowering didn't get out of hand height wise as had been happening without veg time, flowering from seedling. Not many lower fans as they stretched, and still big ole nugs. Only wished i hadn't topped em, just went with the main cola. I'll have to this next round, I got 25 seeds up, in a smaller tent, 5 already in gallon smarties as they are female. Helluva deal, ain't done it like this in awhile.
Im fucking with that plan!!! Maybe not so many seeds,but definitely the formula...
 

althor

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I think this too, and I'll tuck and wrap around fanners instead of lopping off, but I seen folks in OR, especially outdoors, that would get a plant up goin and beautiful and then defoliate all the fanners underneath, thought it would really mess with em, but it didn't sure freaked me out. Ive also noticed that when flower from seed, inside in a tent anyhow, with the stretchin, you don't have as many midlevel fans, or ime. Which is actualy nice per airflow. Next round im gonna give em a week of MH veg, then go straight to flower.
Yep man, that is why I generally try to preface my comments with phrases like "this is what I do, or this is how I believe" etc. because, using this as an example, I have seen the same thing. I have a few grow friends that will pluck every fan leaf off in flower and end up with big fat buds, same as me.
Although, something I have noticed with some strains, when you pull off the fan leaves, more new growth leaves seem to pop out of the bud, do you end up with more leaf trimming in the end anyway.
 
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