Urgent help with $100,000 setup!

Did you check your stakes for mold? Also, maybe your roots aren't getting enough oxygen.

lol from helping to flaming, back to helping....

Hey man I feel for you. I hated when my babies started to act funny due to something simple. That's what i was going to say also, sometimes just checking the simple things solves it, granted, if you're anything like me, you've probably checked a hundred times already lol.

maybe you rushed Bloom nutrients too fast. I know lots of people wait 1-2 weeks after flowering before switching to full bloom nutes ...

but, im kind a newb and can't help you really. Check the root system (how are the roots looking?)

Are the temperatures stable when the lights are out?

very good info

15 Bucks Little Man said:

Congratulations! Your thread has the honor of home to my first post ever here. with that said. Fuck you for wasting my time.

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Way to make little sense.

Fucking moron.

Your plants need to be fed at least once a day if using only hydrotron. In the survey you filled out you said that you fed them weekly but I think you should be feeding them daily. I am growing in just hydrotron and I have my timers set to feed every 8 hours and my plants look great. That is the only thing I can think of out of all the questions you answered.

looking back at the plant pics I stick to my original conclusion they look under nurished to me.

POTINPANS said:

right he has about 40 to 60 planets that would yeild about 120gr each do the math its not that hard...

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to bad there dead.

yea looks like my first grow when I went in to flowering also. I over nuted them to hell.. They looked like yours and they did not recover.

if i had that much money id get a muchhhhhh better camera

LMAO I gotta say this is one of the funniest threads I've seen here. But yeah I feel for ya man, prolly gonna have to start fresh and ease off on the nutrients. They look burned to death

bigweeds said:

if i had that much money id get a muchhhhhh better camera

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its off a cell phone camera but thanks for the advice

your feeding is messed up. I would only feed them the flora nova and you have to feed at every drip cycle. Always have nutes in the dwc too. I am surprisedthey lasted this long.

tea tree said:

your feeding is messed up. I would only feed them the flora nova and you have to feed at every drip cycle. Always have nutes in the dwc too. I am surprisedthey lasted this long.

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naw... They get fed 24/7.
The 1800 gph water pump is on always even during the night and it also has a industrial strength $900 air pump in each individual pale plus a air pump in the reservoir.
The floracious series is really good but nutes don't have nothing to do with it... I grew many sucessful harvests with the floracious series.... I could show pictures of massive trees from previous harvests!

900 dollar air pump in each pail? what the fuck. I think 1800 gph pump should be on a cycle time for you. Airpumps all the time. That could be your problem..

i would throw my life away if i fucked a setup like that up man

wonderblunder said:

900 dollar air pump in each pail? what the fuck. I think 1800 gph pump should be on a cycle time for you. Airpumps all the time. That could be your problem..

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no its a 900 dollar air pump that has manifolds that have air stones going into each pale. the air pump is on always... and when the water pump is on... it actually gives it more oxygen hitting the air first and then the nutes in the pale (creating a splash) because it overfeeds back into the reservoir (making a bigger splash).
and i doubt thats the problem because like i said i had sucessful harvests the same method.
14 ps per 8 lights... same setup, same nutrient strengths...

squarepush3r said:

maybe you rushed Bloom nutrients too fast. I know lots of people wait 1-2 weeks after flowering before switching to full bloom nutes ...

but, im kind a newb and can't help you really. Check the root system (how are the roots looking?)

Are the temperatures stable when the lights are out?

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Very good advice there. Certainly a combination of problems that begins with root issue that lead to nutrient lockout.

Pays to regularly check the health of roots in hydro as they are always the first signs that something tragic is about to happen up top. Things to look for are dark patches of roots which is probably root rot, also if the majority of the root area is made of thin weedy and sparse roots, or just not growing at all.

Also the return runoff can yield you some indicators as well.

Tell us about how the pH has been during the veg, did you have any spikes or massive drops in pH that you had to correct?

Also are you treating your rez water with hydrogen peroxide/colloidal silver or something similar to deal with rotten roots and pathegeons in the water?

Also, hitting 6.8 is not good for hydro...

less is more. takin it slow can get ya there faster. and safer.

my first advice. get a calendar. start documenting everything. never attempt more than you can point a finger at 1 time.
how will you ever know what to fix if you don't know where you went wrong????

doing a lot but with a proven system recipe is onething....but this kinda shit don't happen if your teamed up with peeps who know what there doin. that calls up to you.

if it were my crop. i'd dump everythin in my garden plot for next springs outdoor planting. wink.

then flush again for a day/nite....no clearing solution just phd water and then dump again.

then ph and fill and leave it like this until you see some new VIGOROUS growth. could be weeks. but thats how bad your situation is. you need to suck it up and be patient. no more "i did this yesterday" bullshit. it takes days and sometimes weeks for the plant to display effects. they can take that long to reverse. the sooner you can observe and proactively adjust/predict...the sooner they can bounce back. CUZ THEIR HEALTHY. you mist some big signs for this to happen.

anyway yeah....I would then foliar feed some super thrive twice daily. do not spray til it drips off leaves like a friggin garden hose. just casually walk and mist each. mist. morning and nite for like 3 days. you can get it a walmart.

turn your fans off when you do this.

then cross yer fingers.

if you've got clones started for the next round i would get em out now and cut your losses on the worst lookin plants. no sense baby'n them get them back only to set ya back another 3 weeks for piss poor results. get your strongest plants in those fresh pots asap. you can always clone off them anyways.

and why are you sucking air through your lights and into a carbon filter.... Jeezuz man. cut a fuckin hole in the wall...its FREEEEEEEE.

you need air exchange. cut two holes in your walls. one in the ceiling to vent heat out of into. best to pull air through the filter so set fan ontop of can and run hose into attic. cut other hole in lower wall to another adjacent room to pull some fresh air in from. maybe from say o i dont know, a basement, crawlpace vent, or closet to room next door?????

now your gettin somewhere.