Ultimate growing situation

Yawgmoth

Active Member
So I ran through a proposition where we were trying to figure out how to grow as safely and profitable as possible. This is the concept I came up with and it seems ideal! I didn't include too many stats on what exact modules I would include for growing the plants but you can use your imagination and preferences.....

The concept is an underground bomb-shelter being created for the purpose of growing... As you could imagine having a secrete basement would be fucking sweet, so I just based this situation off of that. I believe that the price cap on this would be whatever you want but I based it about a 1,000,000 investment.

And NO I did not draw ANY influence from that piece of shit movie "pineapple express"!!!! The idea of an underground grow area has been around far longer then that movie.

Bunker growhouse stats:

Lighting options:

http://parans.com/

Using fiber optic lights one could harvest
natural sunlight from the surface and run
the cables down (adjacent to the shaft)
down to the whole grow room. During
daylight the whole lighting system is SUNLIGHT
which is the best light spectrum for growing
and completely FREE!!!





Alternatively you could use LED growing lights in tandem with the fiber optic for a completely
solid lighting set up. There wouldn't be any real drawbacks (once they develop multiwavelength
LEDs), but a ton of advantages. For example, LEDs use little energy, don't get hot, and have a
lifetime of 50,000+ hours!!! That means that you don't have a large energy consumption, even when
dealing with LARGE crops, and do that without giving a thermal footprint.

http://www.optotech.com/multi_wavelength_LED.htm

(Note: this is hypothetical; for, in reality
LED lights are not yet at the capability for
efficiently growing good yields and aren't
worth the cost. However we'll assume that
LED technology has advanced a little.)

With current technology you could still run HIDs instead of LED and supplement your energy
consumption with as much solar as you possibly could! In fact, I would use solar shingles on the house
above and let that generate enough electricity for the entire setup!!!

Energy:

Solar options:

http://www.oksolar.com/roof/

If you harvested sunlight all day and used the bulk of your energy consumption around the sun you would
have an energy bill of 0 and absolutely nothing to indicate anything suspicious..

Wind options:

http://www.skystreamenergy.com/
http://www.helixwind.com

Using wind energy allows access to electricity after the sun goes down and it is realistic to mount the windmill
somewhere in the back yard. This option could provide far more energy then the bunker might require depending
on the location and how much wind you receive there.

Using both these options together is the ultimate because then you are completely self sufficient as far as energy is concerned!!

Location:

Basically you could have it so that the house above and the bunker are housing for people so that you can trade off the "workload" every so often.

A.) Suburbia
How to do it: Look at new housing development areas and after the lots have been assigned and contract someone to come and build a "bomb shelter" at a distance underground as to not interfere with the installation of any waterlines or electric lines. The shelter would be as big as financially feasible and plotted so the entrance tunnel will be in the back yard according to the predetermined lots. As the shelter is being built you can include the fiber optic option claiming that in nuclear fallout you will need SUNLIGHT if you can't get outside, and wiring the bunker with any amenities of home is not only entirely normal but it is expected so that you could make sure it is optimal for sustaining plant and human life. The result is the house being built on top of the bunker and the purchase of that house before it goes on market and nobody knowing the better.

Advantages: You would be "hiding in plain sight" which is pretty cool. You would also be located within an area where you can get out and get whatever you may need? Connecting the bunker and house up to someone elses wifi via a satellite dish modification insures that you will always be plugged in; in theory, you could just run an ethernet cable through the shaft down to the bunker from the dish and, from underground, be guaranteed access to any unsecured (or secure if you just wanna crack the WEP) network within a several mile radius! Basically, you could constantly run your phone (VoIP) and internet.... you're entire communication through someone elses network! The digital security is pretty solid and undetectable so you could torrent and game away constantly without drawing any suspicion with your network searches or anything that could lead back to you!

Disadvantages: The house is still surrounded by other houses so I guess the major disadvantage is privacy? I'm not a big fan of suburbia so I would list just being in some neighborhood as a disadvantage.



B.) Mountain/Rural area:

How to do it: Buy some land and have a contractor build the bunker below ground just enough. Hire another contractor to build a house of your choosing on the land wherever you want. You can even have the contractors keeping the whole thing up to "off the grid" specifications in mind. The result would be your house with a bunker underneath and if you were smart you would find a way to keep the contracting "private" so nothing would be on record confirming the existence of the bunker.


Advantages: The location can be however far from society and the city as you want (but there are always going to be things you need with a grow room).
You could have enough land to grow many different crops during season. Being so far from touch insures that no law enforcement is going to mess with
you. Also, the privacy is unbeatable, if you were to live in the house/bunker with several close individuals there would be little reason for any suspicion as
to what you are doing.

Disadvantages: There may be some serious complications when trying to get internet for your house/bunker, which I would consider extremely important. Because
you're in a rural setting the only major issue is that if you would getting an account with an ISP and having that address on file could be a security risk. Connecting to
someone elses network isn't really an option here. May end up to be more expensive depending on where you were to have it all


Personally, I would wire up the bunker with all kinds
of gaming tech and entertainment modules, so that
you could live down there for awhile (still going outside of course) and just tend to the plants whenever needed.


Design:

When designing the bunker you can think along the lines of a ranch-style dwelling designed to have rooms and enough space for the grow
area. You can use your imagination and think of how you would do it, but I would just hook it up with some HDTVs in separate rooms from the
main grow room, with PC/(every console)entertainment system. Personally, if I were dealing with an operation like this I would trip the rooms
out and have couches and lovesacs with wall scrolls as to create a more 'homely' underground setting but keeping in mind that the most space
should be dedicated to the plants! To make the space habitable you have to add a refrigerator and kitchen amenities for food preparation along with a bathroom
and plumbing.

You could use whatever grow method you prefer but I would use an automated hydroponic system and idiot-proof lighting so that the basic plant needs would manage with minimal effort. All you would have to concern yourself with is the detailed elements of care taking the plants. Using dirt would require movement of soil in and out of the room
and could become a pain. Using hydroponic systems ensures that the plants water supply is next to effortless in addition to being known to grow at an accelerated rate.

The fact that the bunker would be designed and installed as a "bomb shelter" it should be wired for everything you need to live so using this area to live and grow would be ideal since there is need for constant monitering.

I figure the whole bunker, equipment, and house combo could be done for under a million dollars. I'm not too sure on all the specifications for growing that many plants
but I figure if you did this then your "job" would be to grow and you could use your free time to be creative and do whatever you like. Therefore, an investment of a cool mil into a project like this could pay for itself within 3 years and then you would be basically be growing money.

I would estimate that you could grow a shitton of dank with a setup like this..... I'm not sure what the lb/month overall yeild would be.... but I can say that it would be enough to pay for itself pretty quick.

What do you think? Anything I didn't think of or should have not thought of lol? :weed:
 

mrduke

Well-Known Member
if you got a million bucks you can make a hell ofa lot more money other ways then groing weed. But i aint got that kind a money so i'll stick to growin
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
A million dollar bunker is totally ott.
You may get caught in the first day of actually selling any lol.
If your a millionaire just buy some weed:joint:
 

sammons

Active Member
I like the way you are thinking, but more thorough research is required.

as with the bunker. that is a good idea, but probably just as effective as using a purpose built garage or basement. its not just the lighting and space you have to think about, you have to sort out temperature, airflow, smell removal etc.
having it fully covert is always a bonus, but if your are going to get caught, you will get caught. just when you thought it was safe to grow in your roof. some people got busted doing that again recently in my parts.

as far as light goes. LED's are up to scratch. they are borderline on being cheaper depending on how you look at it. As new players are coming into the market, LED Grow lights are finally being built properly. i.e. a few new ones coming out of china actually use wavelengths of blue at 440nm and red at 640 and 660 nm. You would need an insane fiber optic setup to grow plants with, so I would say that is not an option. using the sun to do an indoor grow also had the disadvantage of limited control. no longer can you have the lights turn on and off when you want and flower when you want. If you were to use solar panels. you would need to cover your entire roof to get the daily input required to cover the power requirements of a small grow as the lights will be on way after the sun goes down most of the year. during winter that the days get short and the sun not so bright. and Just because the solar panel is reated at 1kw doesn't mean thats what you will get out of it.

but is possible with a big investment.

:o) phil
 

Yawgmoth

Active Member
A million dollar bunker is totally ott.
You may get caught in the first day of actually selling any lol.
If your a millionaire just buy some weed:joint:
I wanted to address your comment and everyone elses' concerning why you would spend this much on a grow room.. While a mil up front is pretty pricey, the money generated by your crop would be not only tax free, but in constant supply and current on inflation. No matter what the economy does you'll always have income! Look at how much money was lost in the stock markets, that could never happen if your money was in ganja. However, it comes at a big risk which is why you might as well put it underground right?
 

Yawgmoth

Active Member
@ Phil- I hear ya. I figured the whole entrance of the bunker to be a 3x4 ft rectangle so that you could run the fiber optics parallel with all the wiring, plumbing, and air vents. Keeping in mind that this whole instillation would have to be installed so that AFTER you move into the house above it you could "plug it in" (insuring that nobody would know about or have any records of the bunker). I figure that the fiber optics would have to be a MUST seeing as how sunlight is the ultimate light to grow with and that it is free.... I don't see why not?
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
Growing it never really seem to be the problem.
Its selling it on that gets you caught or ripped off:weed:
 

AeroKing

Well-Known Member
I've always wondered what kind of light you'd get off of one of those "para-scope lights". Knowing how light looses intensity when bouncing around, it seems that it would be less than adequate.
 

Curse604

Member
If we were to be a little more realistic and say we don't have a million dollars but we have a couple thousand dollars and a good friend/partner, and no bomb shelter but a truck full of tools, extensive combined construction experience and the near endless mountain side.. what kind of generator would you use for that? Is it even possible not to mention worthwhile to haul in the seemingly neverending amount of gas or diesel?

Been looking for a thread like this for a while this is pretty much the closest I could find any feedback or related links greatly appreciated thanks ✌
 

CallinCarRamRod

Well-Known Member
If we were to be a little more realistic and say we don't have a million dollars but we have a couple thousand dollars and a good friend/partner, and no bomb shelter but a truck full of tools, extensive combined construction experience and the near endless mountain side.. what kind of generator would you use for that? Is it even possible not to mention worthwhile to haul in the seemingly neverending amount of gas or diesel?

Been looking for a thread like this for a while this is pretty much the closest I could find any feedback or related links greatly appreciated thanks ✌
My generator. Makes 9000 watts. Or 9kw. It goes through 6 gallons of gas in 12 hrs. Regardless of load.
IMO. If you can find something, or convert something to propane, might be better.

Also they're noisy as fuck. Hunting season comes and goes, but birdwatchers always remain

I would personally use the mountainside for outdoor growing.
Build a shed in your backyard. Or your buddies. Somewhere you can hook up regular power.
#threadrevival
 

Ms patient

Member
4 conex boxes, a welder and a track hoe, just point to were ya want it out in the country, I can weld and run a hoe, let me know when, I don't know shit. Might even have all the specks on the boxes how to control moisture and well, this is my dream grow for the last 20 years so I have some thought in it also. The fiber is a interesting idea though....
 

b4ds33d

Well-Known Member
you could handle the internet issue by getting an RV satellite setup. use someone's address that doesn't give a shit, pay the bill with one of those pre-paid Vanilla Mastercards.
 
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