Uhh my buddy needs help

Rdot03

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So I went to a buddy of mine house and he showed me his grow but.. idk what to think. Yellowing leaves and some with brown spots on leaves .. very tall stretchy plants.. he is running 5 1000w de
 

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Roger A. Shrubber

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tell your buddy to get some t5s for early veg. put them close to the plants and let them develop some nice tight internodal spacing...when they have 4 or 5 sets of leaves you can put them under the big de's...right now they're stretching to reach the light, and the ones that do stretch are probably going to get burnt...
 

danjac82

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Yellow leaves and dArk purple stem. What’s the medium and what’s the feed? What amountof water do you run into the pot? Never prune a struggling plant
 
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xtsho

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Five DE's? Oh my. Just shows that spending money doesn't guarantee a successful grow. That look s like coco and too dry. Lights are too high. Plants are starving. Pretty much anything you can do wrong your buddy has done. There's probably no helping him because he probably thinks he knows everything when the fact that he knows nothing about growing cannabis is staring him right in the face.

He might get an OZ out of that entire room. What a waste of money and time. If he's in a legal state tell him to sell his equipment on craigslist and buy his pot from a dispensary. I can't even look at that picture again. It's just too sad.
 

xtsho

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tell your buddy to get some t5s for early veg. put them close to the plants and let them develop some nice tight internodal spacing...when they have 4 or 5 sets of leaves you can put them under the big de's...right now they're stretching to reach the light, and the ones that do stretch are probably going to get burnt...
His buddy shouldn't spend another dime on growing. It would be a waste. :bigjoint:
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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seriously...you use one type of light for veg, and another for flower...the DE's are great for flower, but not so great for veg, at least early veg. get a box full of cfls and some two ways for seedlings or clones, a couple of t5 fixtures, quantum boards, or strips for most of veg, then set one of those d.e.s up separately, and let your plants get used to being under one for a couple of weeks before you throw them under the other 4....which should cover around a ten by ten area real well
 

xtsho

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seriously...you use one type of light for veg, and another for flower...the DE's are great for flower, but not so great for veg, at least early veg. get a box full of cfls and some two ways for seedlings or clones, a couple of t5 fixtures, quantum boards, or strips for most of veg, then set one of those d.e.s up separately, and let your plants get used to being under one for a couple of weeks before you throw them under the other 4....which should cover around a ten by ten area real well
But it's not just the light. That looks like straight coco and it looks bone dry. I wonder how the guy waters it to runoff? Where does the water go? Looks like a basement so maybe there is a drain but it doesn't even look like those are being watered and fed. I agree with the T5's. I also would have let those plants get two or three times that size before planting them in those size pots which are bigger than you need to grow in coco. I don't see this grow ending well. But what do I know. I will say one thing. I'll probably harvest more out of my 4 x 4 tent with a 600 watt HPS than this guy will out of that entire room on his current grow. If I still had hair it's threads like this that would cause me to rip it out. :bigjoint:
 

Neubieauto

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Why do some pots look like they have a Ton of perlite and some none at all? And this plant in the bottom right is being held up by sticks? What is happening here. I dont know a ton but I know the smart people that can help what can be helped here from this point are going to need much more info here to help. Strain? Grow medium? Amendments or nutes given? Watering schedule? What's the temp and rh running in there? And I dont see any fans for air circulation. Hopefully they are hanging up high. Any more info will help you get help for your "buddy" lol. :leaf:
 

xtsho

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Why do some pots look like they have a Ton of perlite and some none at all? And this plant in the bottom right is being held up by sticks? What is happening here. I dont know a ton but I know the smart people that can help what can be helped here from this point are going to need much more info here to help. Strain? Grow medium? Amendments or nutes given? Watering schedule? What's the temp and rh running in there? And I dont see any fans for air circulation. Hopefully they are hanging up high. Any more info will help you get help for your "buddy" lol. :leaf:
I doubt that there is much anyone can do to help this grow. The grower seems to have spent a bunch of money on equipment and such but neglected to learn anything about actually growing a plant. At this point it's probably a very stressful situation for the grower. If I was the OP I would avoid going over there. It can't be pleasant. And I've found that people that jump in and spend a bunch of money and fail are very hard to help. They'll probably blame the genetics or something but never once look in the mirror to see the real problem.
 

Neubieauto

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I doubt that there is much anyone can do to help this grow. The grower seems to have spent a bunch of money on equipment and such but neglected to learn anything about actually growing a plant. At this point it's probably a very stressful situation for the grower. If I was the OP I would avoid going over there. It can't be pleasant. And I've found that people that jump in and spend a bunch of money and fail are very hard to help. They'll probably blame the genetics or something but never once look in the mirror to see the real problem.
Poor plants. :cry: they are all precious to me from bag seeds to the best lol. Hopefully he or she learns something from this at least.
 

Rdot03

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Yea when I took the pic it was right before he was gonna water. Before i left he was filling a big tote of water. You are correct I try to suggest stuff that I've read on the forums and he always has something to say.i invested in this grow so I need to help him as much as I can.
Five DE's? Oh my. Just shows that spending money doesn't guarantee a successful grow. That look s like coco and too dry. Lights are too high. Plants are starving. Pretty much anything you can do wrong your buddy has done. There's probably no helping him because he probably thinks he knows everything when the fact that he knows nothing about growing cannabis is staring him right in the face.

He might get an OZ out of that entire room. What a waste of money and time. If he's in a legal state tell him to sell his equipment on craigslist and buy his pot from a dispensary. I can't even look at that picture again. It's just too sad.
 

Rdot03

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seriously...you use one type of light for veg, and another for flower...the DE's are great for flower, but not so great for veg, at least early veg. get a box full of cfls and some two ways for seedlings or clones, a couple of t5 fixtures, quantum boards, or strips for most of veg, then set one of those d.e.s up separately, and let your plants get used to being under one for a couple of weeks before you throw them under the other 4....which should cover around a ten by ten area real well
Not my grow it's a buddy of mine I invested in. I'm just trying to find some helpful info
 
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