Two years wasted on the Mueller Investigation. How will the media discredit President Trump next?

MichiganSpinDoctor

MichiganSpinDoctor

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Fogdog said:
The report documents more than 100 meetings between Trump's campaign and Russian government agents. "Did not establish" means there was evidence but not enough to convict.

Still, though. 100 meetings? It's clear that the president was trying to cover this up, what with all his efforts to obstruct the investigation. I think the US public can make up their own minds about those 100 meetings. Most will understandably be skeptical of claims of innocence by Republican shills.
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Maybe in California and new York. Lol. The rest of the country is getting ready for the spygate investigation.

Turns out Hillary Clinton paid for the phony "research" that was used to get a fisa warrant to spy on Trump's campaign.
 
dandyrandy

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Blackwater founder Erik Prince was involved in funding an effort to verify if a cache of stolen emails purporting to be from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email server were legitimate, according to special counsel Robert Mueller's report.

Prince in 2016 was approached by Barbara Ledeen, an aide to Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), and agreed to fund the hiring of a tech expert to verify if the emails were from Clinton's server, which was the subject of a 2016 FBI investigation.

"Ledeen claimed to have obtained a trove of emails (from what she described as the 'dark web') that purported to be the deleted Clinton emails. Ledeen wanted to authenticate the emails and solicited contributions to fund that effort. Erik Prince provided funding to hire a tech advisor to ascertain the authenticity of the emails," reads a section of the Mueller report, which was released Thursday.

"According to Prince, the tech advisor determined that the emails were not authentic," the report continues.

Prince, who advised the Trump campaign throughout 2016, admitted last month to have also been involved in a key meeting at Trump Tower during the campaign. At that meeting, businessman George Nader told top members of the campaign that the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia were interested in supporting President Trump's bid for the White House.

Prince, the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, previously testified before Congress that he only had an "unofficial" role with the Trump campaign, limited to placing yard signs and attending fundraisers. But in March he told Al Jazeera he had discussed Iran policy with top members of the campaign.

Prince and Nader have both been asked to cooperate in the House Judiciary Committee's ongoing investigation into the president and his advisers.
 
Fogdog

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Bugeye said:
Yes, and no collusion or conspiring with Russia was the conclusion.
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What's collusion?

Trump and his Trump campaign staff met with Russian government agents at least 100 times leading up to the election. A thinking person would be skeptical of the claim that there was no conspiracy. You are entitled to not think if you want.
 
ChiefRunningPhist

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"
... if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.

The evidence we obtained about the president’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him...
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Vol 2 pg 2 of the Special Counsel report
 
Fogdog

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ChiefRunningPhist said:
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... if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.

The evidence we obtained about the president’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him...
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Vol 2 pg 2 of the Special Counsel report
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Reading between the lines:

"Even though there was a mountain of evidence of a conspiracy, and obstruction of justice, we cannot indict a sitting president and so will leave the matter up to Congress"

Republicans say: "President is innocent because the Constitution does not allow a sitting president to be indicted"

Way to spin it boys.
 
ChiefRunningPhist

ChiefRunningPhist

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... while the O.L.C. opinion concludes that a sitting president may not be prosecuted, it recognizes that a criminal investigation during the president’s term is permissible. The O.L.C. opinion also recognizes that a president does not have immunity after he leaves office. And if individuals other than the president committed an obstruction offense, they may be prosecuted at this time. Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the integrity of the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available ...
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Vol 2 pg 2 of the Special Counsel report

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/us/politics/mueller-report-william-barr-excerpts.html
 
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